Author Topic: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame  (Read 11151 times)

momento

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #75 on: January 22, 2025, 11:40:47 AM »
Now that I look closely comparing my TFSA SL6 clone and my R088, even the older Tarmac clones have the slight tapered head tube. Then again there's always the TanTan X68 or other SL8 clones if that's the look you're going for. I mainly got this frame for the other features. UDH hangers are like $6 USD and UDH direct mount hangers are under $20 USD. Plus at some point I might try fitting 32c tires.

Sorry you didn't get exactly what you wanted. I made sure to verify the look beforehand with SPcycle with examples before moving forward with my UD glossy coating. The only reason I went with UD glossy is that it's easier to hide scratches and other blemishes, plus I'm not confident in SPcycle's paint work from a previous frame I purchased from them.

I really like this frame. I meant, if you really want to find something to improve it is the head tube.
would you be so kind if you could share photos of the front bike
thanks
good rides with your new bike

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #76 on: January 22, 2025, 04:25:02 PM »
I really like this frame. I meant, if you really want to find something to improve it is the head tube.
would you be so kind if you could share photos of the front bike
thanks
good rides with your new bike

Sure, I'll take photos in the morning. Anything you want to see in particular?

momento

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2025, 11:02:45 PM »
Sure, I'll take photos in the morning. Anything you want to see in particular?
this shot thanks

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2025, 11:56:31 AM »
Here ya go!

Bonus79

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2025, 10:13:31 AM »
I was finally able to stretch the legs of the R088 and did an early morning ride before the pollution levels of the Los Angeles fires became worst as the sun came out. I took it on both some long flat stretches and my local climb areas. It's relatively lightweight and I felt like there was good power transfer. On the flats, it accelerated smoothly while holding speed easily. On the climbs, I could go out of saddle and the frame responded well to rocking the bike back-n-forth. Handling is very good as well, I didn't even notice any toe overlap and steering felt precise without being overly twitchy. My only issue is that my other wheelset with 25c tires looks a bit awkward. For climbing I tend to prefer narrower tires. Aesthetically it looks best with a 28c tire or bigger. Overall it's a very well-balanced frameset. I think I could comfortably recommend it. ;)

Hi, how does the Spcycle SP-R088 perform downhill?

I'm seriously considering buying it (I still ride a rim brake frame, and would like to upgrade to something more updated/modern)....although it looks quite a bit like the Tarmac SL8 (excluding head tube and fork), I think that compared to the Seraph TT- X68, this R088 has its own "personality".

Let's say it would have all the features I look for in a frame: frame type, suitable geometries, compatibility of electronic and mechanical groupsets, 32mm wheel clearance.

I took a look at their website and it seems strange to me not to find information on the resistance tests carried out and/or on the EPS technology used for molding the frame... I suspect that the frame is not produced by SpCycle. ...can you tell me something about it?

It also seems strange to me that they don't provide a rubber cover for the seat post block and the possibility of having the frame together with its own integrated handlebar....

Regarding the BSA 68mm bottom bracket, do you think I could be able to mount a Quarq DZero + crankset with 30mm axle that I currently mount on my Cervélo R3 which has a BBRight (79mm) bottom bracket?

Thanks for the information you want to give me!

Bonus79

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #80 on: January 24, 2025, 10:18:17 AM »
Here ya go!

The front bike doesn't look that different from the SL8....the difference is more noticeable from the side.

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #81 on: January 24, 2025, 11:21:41 AM »
Hi, how does the Spcycle SP-R088 perform downhill?

I'm seriously considering buying it (I still ride a rim brake frame, and would like to upgrade to something more updated/modern)....although it looks quite a bit like the Tarmac SL8 (excluding head tube and fork), I think that compared to the Seraph TT- X68, this R088 has its own "personality".

Let's say it would have all the features I look for in a frame: frame type, suitable geometries, compatibility of electronic and mechanical groupsets, 32mm wheel clearance.

I took a look at their website and it seems strange to me not to find information on the resistance tests carried out and/or on the EPS technology used for molding the frame... I suspect that the frame is not produced by SpCycle. ...can you tell me something about it?

It also seems strange to me that they don't provide a rubber cover for the seat post block and the possibility of having the frame together with its own integrated handlebar....

Regarding the BSA 68mm bottom bracket, do you think I could be able to mount a Quarq DZero + crankset with 30mm axle that I currently mount on my Cervélo R3 which has a BBRight (79mm) bottom bracket?

Thanks for the information you want to give me!

Downhill it seems to pick up speed fast. Though my setup is a bit sketchy since I prefer 25c tires and 34cm bars. I might slam my stem later on for lower center of gravity + more stability, but I currently have a few spacers installed.

SPcycle seems to be the bare minimum type vendor. I've bought from them before, so I knew what to expect. I only went with the R088 because it matched my specs and price-wise during the 11.11/Black Friday sales it was cheaper than any of the SL8 clones with coupon codes combined.

I have no clue if SPcycle or anyone else is the OEM for the frame. So far though, I've done a few hard rides and it holds up fine. The assembly of this bike was a bit more finicky with all the slim internals. In comparison, my recent Ceccotti RF25 gravel build was a breeze to assemble.

I checked, buying an SL8 rubber cover doesn't seem that expensive, like $7 USD. There's nothing exotic about the R088 head tube design, you can probably use any off-the-shelf integrated bar. I'm guessing that might have been part of the decision to modify the head tube.

Aren't BBRight BBs all pressfit? Not sure I'd use a 30mm axle in a threaded BSA BB, but there's probably threaded 30mm BB options available.

fhill

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2025, 11:11:57 AM »

Regarding the BSA 68mm bottom bracket, do you think I could be able to mount a Quarq DZero + crankset with 30mm axle that I currently mount on my Cervélo R3 which has a BBRight (79mm) bottom bracket?

Thanks for the information you want to give me!

As your current crank is most likely a BB30 you can't use that with BSA bottom bracket as the spindle is to short

raisinberry777

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2025, 04:25:40 PM »
As your current crank is most likely a BB30 you can't use that with BSA bottom bracket as the spindle is to short

It depends on the crankset - pretty sure all the SRAM 8-bolt cranks that are labelled as BB30 are actually BB386 (so will work with a BSA30 bottom bracket).

Bonus79

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2025, 05:40:32 AM »
Downhill it seems to pick up speed fast. Though my setup is a bit sketchy since I prefer 25c tires and 34cm bars. I might slam my stem later on for lower center of gravity + more stability, but I currently have a few spacers installed.

SPcycle seems to be the bare minimum type vendor. I've bought from them before, so I knew what to expect. I only went with the R088 because it matched my specs and price-wise during the 11.11/Black Friday sales it was cheaper than any of the SL8 clones with coupon codes combined.

I have no clue if SPcycle or anyone else is the OEM for the frame. So far though, I've done a few hard rides and it holds up fine. The assembly of this bike was a bit more finicky with all the slim internals. In comparison, my recent Ceccotti RF25 gravel build was a breeze to assemble.

I checked, buying an SL8 rubber cover doesn't seem that expensive, like $7 USD. There's nothing exotic about the R088 head tube design, you can probably use any off-the-shelf integrated bar. I'm guessing that might have been part of the decision to modify the head tube.

Aren't BBRight BBs all pressfit? Not sure I'd use a 30mm axle in a threaded BSA BB, but there's probably threaded 30mm BB options available.

Hi, thanks for the replies.
So, handlebar height aside, you still find it stable and "safe", right?
Yes, a rubber cover for the seat post block won't cost much, but for this reason I would have expected it to be included... as well as rubber plugs for the holes for mechanical groupset.
The BBRight bottom bracket is press fit...I was just wondering if the BB30 axle on the Quarq DZero+ crankset was long enough to be used with this frame...maybe I'll try to talk to my trusted mechanic.

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2025, 11:08:37 AM »
Hi, thanks for the replies.
So, handlebar height aside, you still find it stable and "safe", right?
Yes, a rubber cover for the seat post block won't cost much, but for this reason I would have expected it to be included... as well as rubber plugs for the holes for mechanical groupset.
The BBRight bottom bracket is press fit...I was just wondering if the BB30 axle on the Quarq DZero+ crankset was long enough to be used with this frame...maybe I'll try to talk to my trusted mechanic.

All I do is ride up and down hills and it's been fine regarding stability. Again, I'm probably the worst person to ask about fine details regarding frames. I do quite a bit of strength training and stretching, so I can adjust to any frame once the fit has been dialed in. Compared to my positive dealings with some other vendors, this will probably be the last frame I buy from SPcycle. It just happened this frame hit my specs and price point. The frame isn't bad, but yeah a little rubber cover would be nice to provide. Also I might be switching to full integrated bars soon since I was able to find one in 36cm.

If you're dedicated to your 30mm crankset, I would just opt for a T47 frameset. The good thing is that your bearings won't be smaller trying to fit a larger crankset axle and you'll have the serviceability of a threaded BB. Though not many sub 800g aero-ish framesets with T47!

raisinberry777

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2025, 01:38:06 PM »
If you're dedicated to your 30mm crankset, I would just opt for a T47 frameset. The good thing is that your bearings won't be smaller trying to fit a larger crankset axle and you'll have the serviceability of a threaded BB. Though not many sub 800g aero-ish framesets with T47!

Why would the bearing size be smaller for a BSA bottom bracket than a T47 bottom bracket - the bearing sits outside the frame?

Looking at a few listings most brands use 6806 bearings which is exactly what you'd use if you're pressing it in. It's different if you're pressing in 30mm cranks into a BB86 press fit bottom bracket (needs smaller bearings because not enough room) but BSA should be the same size. Welcome to be corrected if I'm wrong.

Bonus79

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2025, 03:45:45 PM »

If you're dedicated to your 30mm crankset, I would just opt for a T47 frameset. The good thing is that your bearings won't be smaller trying to fit a larger crankset axle and you'll have the serviceability of a threaded BB. Though not many sub 800g aero-ish framesets with T47!

More than devoted to the crankset, I would like to reuse the Quarq power meter without having to buy a new one....

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2025, 05:23:06 PM »
Why would the bearing size be smaller for a BSA bottom bracket than a T47 bottom bracket - the bearing sits outside the frame?

Looking at a few listings most brands use 6806 bearings which is exactly what you'd use if you're pressing it in. It's different if you're pressing in 30mm cranks into a BB86 press fit bottom bracket (needs smaller bearings because not enough room) but BSA should be the same size. Welcome to be corrected if I'm wrong.

Feel free to correct me, maybe I’m wrong! I just presumed the bearings were smaller when using 30mm axles in threaded BSA bottom brackets. I remember watching a Hambini video where he made a big stink about 30mm axles on bsa bottom brackets.

Tilmanstoa5ty

Re: Spcycle New Mold SP-R088 Carbon Road Frame
« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2025, 09:08:07 PM »
This frame ticks a lot of boxes and your build looks absolutely beautiful. I'm not saying i regret getting a Velobuild 268 but my brain is heavily trying to convince me to turn the VB into a dedicated zwift bike and get the R088. I really like that you can run pretty much any handlebars or stem due to the shape of the head tube.

Just for clarification: You ordered the bike in black and selected the glossy option is that correct? Because i think the raw carbon look under the clear coat looks amazing on this frame.