Author Topic: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126  (Read 240349 times)

Motus

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2025, 02:20:57 AM »
I don't get why it is so common to call SL8 (and its clones) aero frames. It is an all-rounder, both according to marketing of Specialized and Tour tests. Of course this has to be lighter then a pure aero plank of wood.

The sl8 clone is the x68
the x67 is this:
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5529.0.html

voidptr

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2025, 05:35:02 AM »
I once backed a small project on Indiegogo. It was never fulfilled, and I never got a refund.
It was only $75 and I did not really care, but for years I kept getting excuse-filled emails from the project manager.
Just constant reminders of my terrible decision to support it in the first place.
There's absolutely no way I'd ever support a frameset on Indiegogo from some random Chinese manufacturer.

Requiem84

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2025, 07:37:26 AM »
I’m considering one.

casper.f

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2025, 08:25:01 AM »
Geometry looks damn close to the Tarmac SL8
-Same stack and reach
-same chainstay, toptube,..
-slight variation in rake, bb drop and wheelbase (splitting hairs)

Sander2177

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2025, 08:56:50 AM »
Nice work, Serge — looks like it could be worth a punt.

Even if you manage to get hold of the frame, the big question is whether the quality will be good enough to make it usable. There’s obviously a risk involved, but at that price, it might be worth the gamble.

You could consider paying by credit card — that might offer some protection and a potential route to get your money back if things go sideways.

If they pull it off — the price, the claimed spec, and a decent standard of quality — it could genuinely be the bargain of the century.

But you know what they say… if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Ludo

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2025, 09:35:34 AM »
If they are an existing OEM, can they provide references of what they produced and sold?

casper.f

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2025, 10:48:43 AM »
Geometry looks damn close to the Tarmac SL8
The claimed weight is also pretty impressive

Some comparisons I made with some rough assumptions
Notes:
-The FM126 is a size "S" while the SL8 is a 56, so i assumed the small was 49 and added 100 grams of carbon and 10 grams of paint
-Mondince claims only a 100gr. for paint+hardware, which seems very low, so i made the assumption of 100gr for Ti HW and another 50 for "UD Matt".

VersionS-W SL8 (FACT 12r)Non-S-W SL8 (FACT 10r)FACT 10r+ S-W HW|Small FM126 (Ti HW)56 est. FM126 (Ti HW)
Bare frame (unpainted)645 [±15g]800 [±20g]800 [±20g]|760 [±30g]860 [±30g]
Hardware121 (Ti axles + clamp)167 (Steel HW)121 (Ti HW)|100 (Ti HW)100 (Ti HW)
Paint (basic)+65+65+65|+50 (UD matte)+60 (UD matte)
Complete frame (basic)8311,032986|9101,020

All of the weights are from specialized themself, weightweenies forum, Mondince's site and their indiegogo.

After doing this research 3 options are possible:
-I had a blackout and all the figures listed are total BS
-Mondince is quoting an impossible weight in order to get more support for their indiegogo
-This is an amazing bike, industry leading for a low price

Imo its a bit of a mix from all of the above


Sakizashi

Re: Indiegogo Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2025, 11:13:50 AM »
Realistically, I am seeing a total value of closer to $900 for this frame, using the LTK266DSL as a benchmark. It is a similarly "high-end" blend of CF. Basic Ti Thru Axles, like these, are about $85 a set. Shipping costs around $140-$150, and the Ti hardware is likely around $20. It's a good deal, but probably closer to $100-150 discount IMO.

Mondinice, as a brand, has numerous listings on Alibaba. I think they make the Onrii frames? And maybe a few other AliX brands. I don't think I have ever seen any of their molds used by higher-end brands.

The frame itself is a bit of a miss for me. There is nothing new or inventive here, and I am a huge skeptic of the eye test for aero when it comes to deep tubes and think any marginal gain they provide can easily be offset by poorly performing shapes. The only eye test I think correlates well with actual aero performance is examining the bike's head-on and noting the reduction in frontal area. I am biased to low yaws since the testing I have done has always been outside the wind tunnel and until recently without real-time airspeed.

The geometry is fine for an aero bike. Nothing there either; they played it safe with bikes like the S5 or Y1RS. Speaking of those bikes, I would love to see a lower-cost frame set with a bayonet fork, like those, especially if it took a regular stem, like the Incolor Intropy SSR.

I do love how real they are about both the layup and acknowledging that they are on Indiegogo to bring this bike to life because the industry is hard right now.


w1ll337

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2025, 08:31:10 AM »
Now we just need to know when it will be available to buy directly and if the price will be much higher than the Indiegogo campaign price. I want this frame too.

Requiem84

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2025, 09:02:13 AM »
Is there a way too if they’re en route to get the required number of buyers?

BeeMC

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2025, 09:45:17 AM »
This would be a good alternative for those interested in the QUICK PRO ER. Geometry appears similar at least in a size 52.

I would buy it if a version without the Mondice logo was made available. It would be nice if LT were to sell the frame directly just like the 266-D-SL that Mondice/Parleants/Tideace also sell under different model names.

Uberflo

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2025, 10:19:39 AM »
This would be a good alternative for those interested in the QUICK PRO ER. Geometry appears similar at least in a size 52.

I would buy it if a version without the Mondice logo was made available. It would be nice if LT were to sell the frame directly just like the 266-D-SL that Mondice/Parleants/Tideace also sell under different model names.

I am interested in an Quick Pro ER alternative as I doubt I can ride the frame with 191 cm with just 565 mm stack in the largest size. But I am a little aware of the story behind this crowdfunding thing.

Ludo

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2025, 10:55:44 AM »
This would be a good alternative for those interested in the QUICK PRO ER. Geometry appears similar at least in a size 52.

I would buy it if a version without the Mondice logo was made available. It would be nice if LT were to sell the frame directly just like the 266-D-SL that Mondice/Parleants/Tideace also sell under different model names.

no logo is an option when you check out on indiegogo

w1ll337

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2025, 11:25:41 AM »
I sent a mail to Jackie about the price and him replied...

we will begin the mold in two months. And the first batch will be available in four months.

You can buy directly from us. But the cost will be expensive. It will need USD1098 for frame, fork, seatpost, axles and headset, and shipping cost.

Vasegaard

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126 Indiegogo
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2025, 06:18:20 PM »
Uh. This is super tempting. Anyone jumping on the deal?
Serge how tall are you and what frame size are you considering?