Author Topic: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts  (Read 371187 times)

JvanJ

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1140 on: November 23, 2020, 05:42:49 AM »
Hi.
Yes. with installing it some problems. The cable outlet is directed downward. I used a flexible tube for V- brake. To prevent her from rubbing a hole in the frame, you need to use a rubber protector.

reddi

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1141 on: November 23, 2020, 07:52:40 AM »
729 € for blue with twist lock
749 € for black with twist lock

I bought a black but there were only a 2 in stock when i paid.
So i got the other one - when i paid, there was 1 in stock  ;)
(Didn't want to disappoint anybody, so i didn't tell in this thread)

TedS123

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1142 on: November 23, 2020, 12:12:09 PM »
What's the minimum steerer tube length that will work with this frame? I have a good deal on a Fox Factory 34, but the steerer tube is only 6".

Edit: I should add that I ordered a large with the 120 mm head tube.

Does anyone have the stack height of the headset included with the frame? Is it a zero stack?
« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 12:18:05 PM by TedS123 »

JII

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1143 on: November 23, 2020, 03:17:20 PM »
Yes, here is my medium frame with 165x37.5mm fitted:



Where did you get it? I can not find one Deluxe/Sidluxe  in 165x  37.5/40/42,5 with remote!

I want a RockShox rear to match the front Sid 35 120

theirishrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1144 on: November 23, 2020, 04:02:00 PM »
What's the minimum steerer tube length that will work with this frame? I have a good deal on a Fox Factory 34, but the steerer tube is only 6".

Edit: I should add that I ordered a large with the 120 mm head tube.

Does anyone have the stack height of the headset included with the frame? Is it a zero stack?

very close to zero, max maybe 4mm or so (from memory). I will measure with my caliper unless anyone can beat me to it.

adroitrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1145 on: November 23, 2020, 08:35:06 PM »
Where did you get it? I can not find one Deluxe/Sidluxe  in 165x  37.5/40/42,5 with remote!

I want a RockShox rear to match the front Sid 35 120

That is not a SidLuxe.

Here is a 165x42.5 Deluxe RL Trunnion:
https://www.modernbike.com/product-2126281379?gclid=CjwKCAiA2O39BRBjEiwApB2Ikg-P-37vVFUxdupiAYnLSBTwBMzLtxP419pvJXe5mNabXUNDTcVieRoCrsUQAvD_BwE
« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 08:38:08 PM by adroitrider »

TedS123

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1146 on: November 23, 2020, 09:27:29 PM »
very close to zero, max maybe 4mm or so (from memory). I will measure with my caliper unless anyone can beat me to it.

That would be great - if you can confirm the stack height is <=4 mm, then I think it will work with a low stack height stem (<=30 mm). Head tube length + headset + stem: 120 + 4 + 30 = 154 mm. Steerer tube length = 6" = 152.4 mm.

jever98

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1147 on: November 23, 2020, 09:57:14 PM »
I would simply see who makes the lowest stack headset, if the fork is worth it. Slamthatstem also have super low headset caps.

JII

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1148 on: November 24, 2020, 06:12:50 AM »

reddi

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1149 on: November 24, 2020, 09:15:36 AM »
Thanks

But I want a shock with remote!  ;)

Me too! But it seems that RockShox does not offer Deluxe Ultimate Shocks for the Aftermarket. The only 165 trunnion shock that RockShock has on theyr website is a Deluxe Ultimate Remote. So i think one has to wait for a used one.

Might be a dumbass question, but if i buy a Fox DPS 165x45, i can insert one of these and then i have a 165x42.5, right?

Another question: Where does the remote cable come from (if used)? Does it exit the frame at the same spot as brake hose and derailleur cable? Because i think you need a shock that accepts a remote cable comping from the piston end.
Some shocks with remote have that cable coming from the "upper" end wich is bolted towards the BB in the FM 936...
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 09:31:50 AM by reddi »

Cerps

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1150 on: November 24, 2020, 09:43:29 AM »


Might be a dumbass question, but if i buy a Fox DPS 165x45, i can insert one of these and then i have a 165x42.5, right?



To reduce the travel of a Fox I'm pretty sure you need to do a full rebuild to get the travel limiting spacer in there.  I had asked about doing the same thing to a Fox Nude shock off a Scott Spark and I was told it can only be done with a full rebuild. I know the Nude is a little different but I think the travel limiting is the same.

theirishrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1151 on: November 24, 2020, 10:10:13 AM »
To reduce the travel of a Fox I'm pretty sure you need to do a full rebuild to get the travel limiting spacer in there.  I had asked about doing the same thing to a Fox Nude shock off a Scott Spark and I was told it can only be done with a full rebuild. I know the Nude is a little different but I think the travel limiting is the same.
If you go back me and the others had a huge conversation about this (i know it's alot of forum) but if you search my posts you'll see it. Yes, you need a full rebuild. But it's wayy easier to make a split ring from mild steel (bend and then crimp) or nylon and push it over the shaft and will for all intents and purposes work the same. This requires you to just screw the air can off which takes 1 min or so. One guys did this with a steel ring!   Most of us have no problem with the 42.5 shocks.

carbonazza

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1152 on: November 24, 2020, 10:24:55 AM »
...But I want a shock with remote!  ;)

Are you European ?
One of the first review of the couple Ultimate fork/shock I saw on youtube was with one(the) product manager.
And they had good fun, mocking Europeans that absolutely wanted a lock.
I'm one too, but will try without. Since it appears to be cultural  8)

JII

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1153 on: November 24, 2020, 10:36:35 AM »
Are you European ?
One of the first review of the couple Ultimate fork/shock I saw on youtube was with one(the) product manager.
And they had good fun, mocking Europeans that absolutely wanted a lock.
I'm one too, but will try without. Since it appears to be cultural  8)

Yes, European

I don´t think it is only cultural. I have a 150/160mm bike without remote and is very funny, I like so much, but I will use the fm936 to race XC, and I always use remote in my XC race bikes.

 ;)
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 10:44:53 AM by JII »

reddi

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1154 on: November 24, 2020, 10:54:55 AM »
If you go back me and the others had a huge conversation about this (i know it's alot of forum) but if you search my posts you'll see it. Yes, you need a full rebuild. But it's wayy easier to make a split ring from mild steel (bend and then crimp) or nylon and push it over the shaft and will for all intents and purposes work the same. This requires you to just screw the air can off which takes 1 min or so. One guys did this with a steel ring!   Most of us have no problem with the 42.5 shocks.
Thanks, that's what i was puzzled about. I could get a 165x45 shock, wich is undoubtedly too much.

Are you European ?
Well, i was not asked but i feel addressed, too  ;)
Yes, i am european (German, for further jokes).
But i think it's more about what you want to make out of this bike. If you want a tourer/trailbike, there is indeed no use for a lockout.
But for me, i want a marathon jetbike. I dont want the the suspension to bump when i stand up in the pedals to zoom up an asphalt road or when racing a finish line sprint. I know, that won't make a major difference to my finishing time, but i hate that bumpy feeling. For me, the rear suspension is primarily to enable seated (=efficient) pedaling on easy trails or grass strips. Second, to make downhill riding feel safer.

Do non-european riders use lockouts on UCI marathon races? I don't know.

Anyway. I've ordered the same Fox shock wich is used by most users here. I'll see if i can live without a lockout.