Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[Colt__Seavers]

IMPORTANT:
found a fitting, cheap, nice looking, light seatpost clamp on AliE.
It's such a great fit to the milled area on the seat tube, that I have to post it
https://a.aliexpress.com/_BPmwem
12€ for 11,3g

[adroitrider]

The BRAD 4 can definitely fit two larger bottles. Here is a close up...

But, the top bottle was rattling on the top tube during the ride so I put it in my jersey pocket.

I have a bit of room to shift that BRAD down a bit, that might allow enough room for the top bottle to rest quietly. If not, i will run a slightly smaller bottle in the top position.

Got in a nice 20 mile ride and did the first 4 miles with the shock locked out. Bike is fast.

[acedeuce802]

Cool to see 2 water bottles fitting on the XL.  I also found this bottle cage mount, may work out for smaller sizes.

https://www.on-lynecomponents.com/collections/the-holy-rail/products/holy-rail-dual-cage-kit

[adroitrider]

Cool to see 2 water bottles fitting on the XL.  I also found this bottle cage mount, may work out for smaller sizes.

https://www.on-lynecomponents.com/collections/the-holy-rail/products/holy-rail-dual-cage-kit

I think that one would fit the two large bottles better than the BRAD.

[theirishrider]

Full build here.... bit supprised at the total... still way cheaper than most off the shelf bikes with the same spec. Especially with carbon wheels. 

2,458.42Euro In parts alone. Honestly feel a bit sick looking at that. <- I Blame the person who made me add it all up! ahaha

What's the most annoying is a guy on ebay has the NS TR low model going for 3500GBP and I though I would be building mine for much less. The 268 VAT on the frame at customs was the killer here. My total including the frame was 3,612.74 Euro (23% VAT).

You can get the race version for 3.5k Euro from Wiggle or CRC https://www.wiggle.com/ns-bikes-synonym-race-2-suspension-bike-2020 - its a large reduction though 

[Colt__Seavers]

Full build here.... bit supprised at the total... still way cheaper than most off the shelf bikes with the same spec. Especially with carbon wheels. 

2,458.42Euro In parts alone. Honestly feel a bit sick looking at that. <- I Blame the person who made me add it all up! ahaha

What's the most annoying is a guy on ebay has the NS TR low model going for 3500GBP and I though I would be building mine for much less. The 268 VAT on the frame at customs was the killer here. My total including the frame was 3,612.74 Euro (23% VAT).

You can get the race version for 3.5k Euro from Wiggle or CRC https://www.wiggle.com/ns-bikes-synonym-race-2-suspension-bike-2020 - its a large reduction though 

Do I understand you right, you payed the same amount for your build than an equal NS Syn build costs? That would be strange

[theirishrider]

Full build here.... bit supprised at the total... still way cheaper than most off the shelf bikes with the same spec. Especially with carbon wheels. 
2,458.42Euro In parts alone. Honestly feel a bit sick looking at that. <- I Blame the person who made me add it all up! ahaha
What's the most annoying is a guy on ebay has the NS TR low model going for 3500GBP and I though I would be building mine for much less. The 268 VAT on the frame at customs was the killer here. My total including the frame was 3,612.74 Euro (23% VAT).
You can get the race version for 3.5k Euro from Wiggle or CRC https://www.wiggle.com/ns-bikes-synonym-race-2-suspension-bike-2020 - its a large reduction though 

Do I understand you right, you payed the same amount for your build than an equal NS Syn build costs? That would be strange

Well yes and no. At Wiggle/CRC for us Europeans:
The NS Bikes Synonym 2 is 3.5k (List Price €4,754.39 Save 26%), but I have better spec IMO and there is no large is stock.
The NS Bikes Synonym 1 is 4.6k (List Price €6,112.79 Save 24%)  and would be more similar to my spec, no carbon wheels but does have carbon bars and cranks - you win some you loose some compared to my build.
NS Bikes Synonym Race 2 is 3.5k (List Price €4,641.19 Save 25%) and is the race version, they have L in stock but I didn't want 100mm Travel. You will not have a good time (IMO) in Ireland on the rocks with 100mm if you're trying to keep up with 130mm-140mm bikes.
These discounts were not on 1 month ago when I ordered. Plus alot of people never had their stuff seized by customs so i'm pretty unlucky.

[adroitrider]

Re, derailleur hangers, the frame comes with one extra.

The packaging on my order was less than ideal and the hanger popped out of the box and took some damage in shipping. I would order 3-4 additional hangers.

Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

[wfl3]

Re, derailleur hangers, the frame comes with one extra.

The packaging on my order was less than ideal and the hanger popped out of the box and took some damage in shipping. I would order 3-4 additional hangers.

Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

Looks like this one:   https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-hangers/thru-axle-hangers/derailleur-hanger-309.html

But I'd prob just contact Adam/Carbonda and order a few directly.  Might take a bit longer, but should be a lot cheaper.

[adroitrider]

Re, derailleur hangers, the frame comes with one extra.

The packaging on my order was less than ideal and the hanger popped out of the box and took some damage in shipping. I would order 3-4 additional hangers.

Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

Photos of damaged box and hanger poking out.

[carbonazza]

...I would order 3-4 additional hangers.
Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

The picture are quite blurred. Is it just paint scratches or it is bent ?
Did you check the frame around that area for a crack ?

Carbonda can provide you with a hanger, the shipping is cheap for such small item.

Before I was buying 2 hangers for each frames I did build.
And have a collection now as none of the riders needed it.
By experience it is useless, one is enough.
Maybe two if you are particularly unlucky.

[Vipassana]

The picture are quite blurred. Is it just paint scratches or it is bent ?
Did you check the frame around that area for a crack ?

Carbonda can provide you with a hanger, the shipping is cheap for such small item.

Before I was buying 2 hangers for each frames I did build.
And have a collection now as none of the riders needed it.
By experience it is useless, one is enough.
Maybe two if you are particularly unlucky.

Any further word on your BSA frame order?

[Colt__Seavers]

...I would order 3-4 additional hangers.
Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

The picture are quite blurred. Is it just paint scratches or it is bent ?
Did you check the frame around that area for a crack ?

Carbonda can provide you with a hanger, the shipping is cheap for such small item.

Before I was buying 2 hangers for each frames I did build.
And have a collection now as none of the riders needed it.
By experience it is useless, one is enough.
Maybe two if you are particularly unlucky.

If you mean from your experiences with gravel builds, I wouldn't compare those with XC riding where it's more likely to ruin a hanger

[adroitrider]

...I would order 3-4 additional hangers.
Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

The picture are quite blurred. Is it just paint scratches or it is bent ?
Did you check the frame around that area for a crack ?

Carbonda can provide you with a hanger, the shipping is cheap for such small item.

Before I was buying 2 hangers for each frames I did build.
And have a collection now as none of the riders needed it.
By experience it is useless, one is enough.
Maybe two if you are particularly unlucky.

Chasing a shifting issue. Only the two middle cogs struggle to shift down the cassette, very sluggish like the chain isn't picking up the ramps. I have been monkeying with the barrel adjuster for a few days. The encyclopedia of bike issues says this is a text book bent derailleur hanger...

Will replace and find out.

[wfl3]

...I would order 3-4 additional hangers.
Does anyone have a link to a hanger that works for this frame?

The picture are quite blurred. Is it just paint scratches or it is bent ?
Did you check the frame around that area for a crack ?

Carbonda can provide you with a hanger, the shipping is cheap for such small item.

Before I was buying 2 hangers for each frames I did build.
And have a collection now as none of the riders needed it.
By experience it is useless, one is enough.
Maybe two if you are particularly unlucky.

Chasing a shifting issue. Only the two middle cogs struggle to shift down the cassette, very sluggish like the chain isn't picking up the ramps. I have been monkeying with the barrel adjuster for a few days. The encyclopedia of bike issues says this is a text book bent derailleur hanger...

Will replace and find out.

Even new hangers can be a bit out of spec and new 11/12 speed drivetrains really require a lot tighter tolerance on hanger straightness.

All home builders should invest in a hanger alignment tool, mine has paid for itself many times over already.

In fact I just had to straighten the hanger on my FM936 this past weekend after a spill and the shifting went to crap.  It looked straight to the eye, but was off quite a bit.