Author Topic: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831  (Read 97575 times)

emu26

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #255 on: June 19, 2020, 03:37:00 PM »
This frame is built to take both 27.5 and 29 correct?

If it takes a 29 it will take a 27.5 but the problem being that a normal size tyre, say 2.3, will drop the bb height down too much. It needs to be 27.5+ to get the bb height back up close to what it was designed for. The question is how big a 27.5 tyre will this frame take?

Maybe if those interested contact Eddy directly he will see that there are people other than me interested and he will organise to find out.  In theory you should be able to work it out from the full CAD but it's always good to see in real life.

Icyseanfitz

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #256 on: June 19, 2020, 04:15:50 PM »
Yeah be interesting to see what size tyres can be put on with 27.5.

Any updates on development progress Eddy?

eminius

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #257 on: June 25, 2020, 05:53:14 PM »
Notice how rear triangle do not have bent part from inside of seatstay in order to fit bigger tyre.....can we please have photo of a frame from this angle.

« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 01:02:09 AM by eminius »

Jotegr

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #258 on: June 26, 2020, 01:03:26 AM »
It's pretty clear from the photos Eddie posted that it doesn't do that.

eminius

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #259 on: June 28, 2020, 01:47:37 PM »
It's pretty clear from the photos Eddie posted that it doesn't do that.
it is strange it can accomodate same size wheels like original hightower...

endo.alley

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #260 on: July 01, 2020, 08:08:05 AM »
Will this frame accommodate a press fit headset? Most of the Chinese carbon frames I have seen are for integrated headsets. I would like the option of an angleset if I so choose, (or not of course).

Gigelz

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #261 on: July 01, 2020, 08:15:46 AM »
Will this frame accommodate a press fit headset? Most of the Chinese carbon frames I have seen are for integrated headsets. I would like the option of an angleset if I so choose, (or not of course).
99% sure that this one will have an integrated one too  ;)

endo.alley

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #262 on: July 01, 2020, 09:20:57 AM »
Hmm. Why do the Chinese frames all go the integrated route? The major manufacturers don't do this with mountain bikes. It seems like more of a road bike technology.

Gigelz

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #263 on: July 01, 2020, 09:46:25 AM »
Hmm. Why do the Chinese frames all go the integrated route? The major manufacturers don't do this with mountain bikes. It seems like more of a road bike technology.
cleaner optic. also most of the common/well known european bike manufacturers go with internal routing on their high end bikes...

endo.alley

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #264 on: July 02, 2020, 07:03:41 PM »
Which European mountain bike manufacturers use integrated headsets?

Icyseanfitz

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #265 on: July 03, 2020, 03:48:06 AM »
I've a cube stereo that has one.

endo.alley

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #266 on: July 03, 2020, 11:53:58 AM »
None of the big USA companies that sell the majority of bikes use integrated headsets . Not Specialized, Ibis, Pivot, Trek, Santa Cruz, Intense, Scott, etc. . Nor do many of the Euro brands lie Canyon or YT. So I don't get why all of the Chinese frame makers do so. It doesn't look sleeker or better. It is lame.

brex

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #267 on: July 03, 2020, 12:17:39 PM »
I have a Canyon, Intense and Specialized in my garage right now that all have integrated headsets.

Gigelz

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #268 on: July 03, 2020, 02:17:28 PM »
None of the big USA companies that sell the majority of bikes use integrated headsets . Not Specialized, Ibis, Pivot, Trek, Santa Cruz, Intense, Scott, etc. . Nor do many of the Euro brands lie Canyon or YT. So I don't get why all of the Chinese frame makers do so. It doesn't look sleeker or better. It is lame.
thats totally wrong. almost all bikes with carbon frames are using IS headsets. original santa cruz high and megatower too for example. even my 2009 ghost amr plus lector is using an IS headset.

endo.alley

Re: Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831
« Reply #269 on: July 04, 2020, 11:46:09 AM »
A friend of mine has an Intense Carbine that clearly has a headset cup protruding from the bottom of the head tube. Another friends Santa Cruz Nomad has a pressed in headset cup. Are you sure you are not mixing up Zero Stack with integrated?