Carbonda Gravel Carbon frame CFR707

[jannmayer]

Weights for my frame:

Frameset	Carbonda CFR707, XL, external routing
Bare frame	CFR707	1,247
Cable guides	Guides for running cables only, will be removed; estimated	-10
Derailleur hanger		19
Seat clamp		36
Bottle cage bolts	(6) M5x12 mm w/ washers	18
Bento bolts	(2) M5x12 mm w/ washers	6
Rear fender mounts	(1) M5x12mm w/ washer, (2) M5x15mm, bridge	40
Grommets		1
Rear axle	173mm M12*P1.5*L15	39
Frame Total		1,396
Bare fork		507
Rack bolts	(6) M5x12 mm w/ washers	18
Front fender mounts	(4) M5x12 mm w/ washers	12
Steerer expander bung		58
Headset bearings	XLB P16, IS52/7/45 (top and bottom)	61
Headset other		44
Front axle	120mm M12*P1.5*L14	30
Fork Total		730
Frameset Total		2,126

[Marek]

Hello.
 I just ordered a crf707 frame, do you have any pictures of a bike built based on this frame?
There are very few photos of such bikes on the network

[jannmayer]

I'm still waiting to build mine up (long business trip)  but I will certainly pay pictures when I do!

[mila]

Hello,
I have just ordered a 707 frame.
I am planning to build the frame with SRAM Force 1x XPLR crankset. But SRAM produces "normal" and "wide" version crankset.
I want to use 38t or 40t up front and 10-44 cassette.

Which one will be better to use, normal or wide?

[wfl3]

Hello,
I have just ordered a 707 frame.
I am planning to build the frame with SRAM Force 1x XPLR crankset. But SRAM produces "normal" and "wide" version crankset.
I want to use 38t or 40t up front and 10-44 cassette.

Which one will be better to use, normal or wide?

Either will work with the 10-44, but I'd go wide for more tire clearance.  Seems like that is the spec on most newer gravel bikes with SRAM.

[crembz]

I just ordered one of these but will opt for a regular stem/bar combo. I'll probably use a riser stem as I'm coming from a MTB background. Still trying to figure out which 650b wheelset to use. With generous reach I'm hoping the XS will not suffer from toe overlap too badly.

[scste]

The still best looking gravel frame I saw is this one, but it looks impossible to get it:

I think the brand ACCENT from Poland sold the frame in their product FERAL:
https://26bikes.com/shop/bikes/gravel-road/prod/accent-feral-carbon-20
A few framesets are still available in Europe.

[carbonazza]

I think the brand ACCENT from Poland sold the frame in their product FERAL:
https://26bikes.com/shop/bikes/gravel-road/prod/accent-feral-carbon-20
A few framesets are still available in Europe.

Wow. Nice find !!!
For me this frame still looks great after many years.

[jannmayer]

I have a stupid headset question.


The frame came with the top and bottom headset bearings, a slotted compression ring, a gapped spacer ring, a top cover, and two thin metal washers. Where do these washers fit? I have the non-internally routed frame, but I'm pretty sure the only difference is the top cover has no holes.

[carbonazza]

...Where do these washers fit?...

In general these washers are between the slotted ring and the dust cover.
When you compress the bearings, the dust cover sometimes rub the top of the frame.
Adding one or more washers add some space to have only the seal making a light contact with the frame.

[jannmayer]

In general these washers are between the slotted ring and the dust cover.
When you compress the bearings, the dust cover sometimes rub the top of the frame.
Adding one or more washers add some space to have only the seal making a light contact with the frame.

Awesome, thank you!

[Stef27]

Hello
I am about to place an order for the cfr707.
but I would like to be sure that there is no toe overlap problem.
because I encounter this problem on my van rysel RCX, the foot touches the front tire and it is quite annoying in the technical parts, tight at low speed where you have to turn the handlebars a lot.
thank you

[acedeuce802]

May depend on the size. But comparing medium to medium, the 707 has a 11mm longer reach than your RCX, and 1.5 deg slacker head angle. The head angle would push the front tire another 12mm forward. So you'd have 23mm more toe clearance than you have now.

[Stef27]

May depend on the size. But comparing medium to medium, the 707 has a 11mm longer reach than your RCX, and 1.5 deg slacker head angle. The head angle would push the front tire another 12mm forward. So you'd have 23mm more toe clearance than you have now.

ok super for this complete answer.
I don't know much about geometry
According to you, the 696 or the 707 to have a more comfortable bike in terms of the riding position?
and suddenly, I would be more lying on the 707 than on my RCX?

thanks

edit :
i make a lot of search,because i don't want to buy a bad frame for me and my practice.
so,in another forum,i found this :
"I normally ride a 56cm road bike. I went with the Medium 696 with 110mm stem. I could have gone for the Large with a shorter stem. Since I ride this bike on the road a lot, I went for the smaller bike for more agility"

which means that I can perhaps move towards a smaller size, even if it means putting on a longer stem and thus maintaining a more comfortable, straighter position, although the reach is long on this frame?

with the S size,it has the same reach and stack than my RCX in M size

[acedeuce802]

Got my medium frame in this weekend, custom paint with RAL5007 and 9016.  The quality is really nice, I'm impressed with the carbon work!

1452g - Medium frame with seat post wedge and cage/mount bolts
566g - Bare fork
115g - Headset, including upper and lower bearing, top cap, compression ring, and ~10mm off additional split spacers
379g - 400x80mm handlebar
172g - Seatpost

Rival 2x11 groupset with GX 2x10 derailleur for clutch (cable routing isn't ideal, but I used an inline adjuster then OT-RS900 cable for more flexibility)
Shimano R7000 11-32 cassette (may go 11-36, had the 32 laying around)
Zrace RX crankset with Sigeyi PM and 46/34 chainrings
SpeedSafe 45mm deep, 29mm outer, 24mm inner wheelset with Pillar Wing 20 spokes and Novatec D411/412 hubs
Vittoria Terreno Dry 700x38c
Bontrager SPD's
Total weight is 19.2 lbs with pedals but no cage

Overall I'm very happy with the bike, but haven't put many miles on it yet.  I think the frame cable routing is really well done, tube-in-tube for the brake hose, plastic tubes prerouted for derailleur cable (I just yanked them and used a magnetic kit), nice routing for front derailleur cable.  I'm a little torn on internal handlebar routing.  I really wasn't too bad to do, the handlebar was much much easier to get cables through than the Lexon GFX handlebar.  I basically loaded up the handlebar with levers and cables/hoses first, and left the derailleur cables long.  Then I put that on the bike, pushed all the cables through, and used a magnetic cable routing kit to help.  Then trim shifter cable at both ends, and brake hose at the caliper end.  The problem is that you can't pull the handlebar more than 40mm upwards or so, because the front brake hose nut wouldn't go through the internal routing, so if you needed to replace a shifter housing, there's a good chance you'd have to cut both brake hoses, pull the handlebar all the way off, replace housing, then reinstall and rebleed everything.  However, I'm just hoping nothing needs maintenance for a long time, the lack of cables is super clean and cool looking.  Also didn't consider that with a SRAM front derailleur and full internal routing, there's no where to put a barrel adjuster, so cable tension is just done by pulling tight.