Author Topic: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame  (Read 270983 times)

braincore

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #195 on: June 27, 2021, 05:18:16 PM »
So I've started the build this weekend and have a couple of questions. How did you route and secure the gear cable to the FD? The bend from the down tube over the BB to the cable exit is quite tight and there doesn't seem to be anywhere to clip/secure the outer cable to the exit grommet.

Also I have a slightly different handlebar to you guys. Mine has two stem bolts that at the back, however, I cant seem to tighten them together (similar to this handlebar setup at 18:27 [url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU][url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU [/url]. When positioned on the stem the two parts don't engage fully so I can't tighten against the stem.

Are you using housing for the shifter cable? I didn't do that at first, but you really have to. Once I added compressionless housing to the cable (including in the internal routing, but right before the exit hole), it all was pretty straightforward. There wasn't a need to clip/secure the outer cable to the exit grommet since it's secured to the FD.

No idea about the handlebar, but I find it funny that we have different ones.


cityliving

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #196 on: June 27, 2021, 08:17:23 PM »
So I've started the build this weekend and have a couple of questions. How did you route and secure the gear cable to the FD? The bend from the down tube over the BB to the cable exit is quite tight and there doesn't seem to be anywhere to clip/secure the outer cable to the exit grommet.

Also I have a slightly different handlebar to you guys. Mine has two stem bolts that at the back, however, I cant seem to tighten them together (similar to this handlebar setup at 18:27 [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU][url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU][url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWYPxGicjU [/url]. When positioned on the stem the two parts don't engage fully so I can't tighten against the stem.

I have the same handlebars. It is essentially a nut and bolt so you need to put a hex head in one side while you tighten the other side.
Mine have been fine. Also make sure you put carbon paste on the steerer where the stem sits.

kjfekfrekgnr

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #197 on: June 28, 2021, 03:06:16 AM »
Are you using housing for the shifter cable? I didn't do that at first, but you really have to. Once I added compressionless housing to the cable (including in the internal routing, but right before the exit hole), it all was pretty straightforward. There wasn't a need to clip/secure the outer cable to the exit grommet since it's secured to the FD.

No idea about the handlebar, but I find it funny that we have different ones.


Yes, I'm using cable housing along the whole cable run, I just assumed there would some sort of clip or housing at the FD exit to hold it in place. I was hoping to have all the outer cables in place before I insert the BB, but I'll probably include the inners and secure that to the FD first.

I have the same handlebars. It is essentially a nut and bolt so you need to put a hex head in one side while you tighten the other side.
Mine have been fine. Also make sure you put carbon paste on the steerer where the stem sits.

That's what I've been trying. But the threads don't engage the bolt, it looks like the treads are a bit thin on end. I'll try again today. Thanks for the carbon paste tip, I'll add that.

adriaanm

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #198 on: June 28, 2021, 05:36:17 AM »
In my (limited) experience with carbon handlebars and stems: replace all (metal) hardware. I couldn’t get my Yoeleo H9 handlebar to stay put (carbon paste and loctite in all the right places). Got some new M5x20mm bolts at the hardware store and hasn’t budged since, even without carbon paste (still using 243 loctite of course).

PS: since got these https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNXMRTr
« Last Edit: June 28, 2021, 07:46:55 AM by adriaanm »

OlieSimpson

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #199 on: June 28, 2021, 07:16:43 AM »
In my (limited) experience with carbon handlebars and stems: replace all (metal) hardware. I couldn’t get my Yoeleo H9 handlebar to stay out (carbon paste and loctite in all the right places). Got some new M5x20mm bolts at the hardware store and hasn’t budged since (still using 243 loctite of course).

PS: since got these https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNXMRTr

Very good tip!

Can someone confirm if the bolts within the headset expansion and the seat tube can be fully removed, and if so what size/length they are? I'd probably also replace these with Ti options (as well as bottle cage bolts) for weight weeny reasons.

kjfekfrekgnr

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #200 on: June 29, 2021, 03:06:09 AM »
The bolts are fully removable, length is 15mm and diameter is 4mm. You'll need the nuts too. Let me know which bolts you end up getting, I might change mine if I can't get them to work.

It seems like most bolts are 16mm in length minimum, so probably why I'm struggling with mine!
« Last Edit: June 29, 2021, 03:11:11 AM by kjfekfrekgnr »

wijmaar

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #201 on: June 30, 2021, 08:44:07 AM »
After a lot of e-mail back and forth, mine is now eventually shipped. Hope to receive it soon. Picture also on the Velobuild website, as far as I can see on this pictures I am really happy with the black fading to chameleon paint job. Photos here: http://www.velobuild.com/products/vb-r-168-light-weight-carbon-road-bike-frameset-glossy-green-chameleon-fading-paint.

I checked with Chris and I will also receive the two bolt version of the handlebar so I assume he is having issues acquiring the original bars that were on the pictures.

Pigdog

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #202 on: June 30, 2021, 04:30:06 PM »
My VB-R-168 just arrived, way sooner then i expected. Only took about 8 days from the order until it arrived at my door in Canada. I went for the frame unpainted as i want to do it myself, so thats probably why it shipped so fast.
One question, what tire size are you running that fits well. I want to run Gp-5000 TL 32mm, and velobuild says it has clearance for 32mm. Has anyone actually run those and can confirm they fit without issues?
Thanks in advance.

Zdrenka89

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #203 on: July 01, 2021, 06:36:20 AM »
Only took about 8 days from the order until it arrived at my door in Canada.


Jealous! ;D

Zoc

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #204 on: July 01, 2021, 07:14:13 AM »
i run Pirelli 28 mm
and there is still enough space 32mm should be no problem

Pigdog

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #205 on: July 01, 2021, 07:18:35 PM »
i run Pirelli 28 mm
and there is still enough space 32mm should be no problem

Thanks Zoc!

braincore

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #206 on: July 02, 2021, 03:04:40 AM »
Has anyone tried adjusting their seatpost after riding around for a bit? It's seemingly stuck for me.

My seatpost was only raised by 1cm or so, and I'm worried that it's slid down since and has been resting on the seat tube.

Zoc

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #207 on: July 02, 2021, 04:53:44 AM »
i had to push it down a bit,
and than i could pull it out

kjfekfrekgnr

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #208 on: July 02, 2021, 09:59:38 AM »
Another question about the FD routing, did you route the cable above the bottom bracket or under and back up? There's no routing guides for this like I've seen on other frames.

braincore

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #209 on: July 02, 2021, 11:16:41 AM »
Another question about the FD routing, did you route the cable above the bottom bracket or under and back up? There's no routing guides for this like I've seen on other frames.

I routed above it.