Pinarello (Chinarello) Dogma F12 build

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can u summarize any issues youve had so far and how its riding?

I only have 200km on it and the indoor season started instead. No bikefit has been done.

No issues but good to know:
It is very stable steering compared with my cx so GP5000 TL 28mm gives a feel of understeer. I want lighter tyres but don't know what. P Zero SL 26mm maybe.

You should cut away som carbon where your cables run around the bottom bracket. It was sharp. I put my cables inside foam too just to be safe.

Some carbon is still left in the head tube. You can hear the brake hose touching it if you turn over 90 degrees and back again.

Very few torque specifications but some can be found.

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1764km on it so far. I noticed that I forgot to put loctite on the rear hanger, it started to shift weird so that was found at 1000km service.
Some air was trapped inside the front brake hose so I had to bleed it after i let the bicyle lie on the ground.
I think both headset bearing sits a bit too loose so I added one lap of thin 0,1mm tape on them. Now I only need 2nm to set the headset.
GP5000 TL 28mm was replaced with GP 5000 STR 25mm. They feel much better since they are lighter but I did lost comfort on bad tarmac. Usually runs 80/82psi front/rear but I can go down to 72/76 if I want. After that I think it feels loose in the corners.
Added Assioma duo on it since the build too, very nice to measure power.
Ordered Garmin Varia RTL 515 radar too it.
I do have some weird sound on the lowest gears if I put out more than 250w. Carbon like. Some friends says that carbon is never quiet so it might be okay.
Still using 52/36 with 11-30 so the lowest cogs isn´t much used.
It is worth to mention that it is a bit harsh on bumpy roads.
Aero frame comes to use above 30km/h I would say, it´s really going on rails then.

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4000km has passed. I bought new wheels from Sun Bike Store again with centerlock disc and Novatec 411/412 hubs.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/5892539?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.pcShopHead_1262077414.0

11-30 was changed to 11-28 instead, i miss 16T though so I might move to 11-25 one day.
I can lower tyre pressure with those compared with Roval so I run 4,0/4,2kg front and rear now on rough tarmac. Around 5kg on smoth tarmac.
Lower headset bearing has been replaced after I broke it when I tried to remove it from the frame.
It´s a good bike and the aero comes in place after 30km/h. It does feel soft around 50km/h when gusty sidewinds hit me, i guess this frame isn´t that stiff in torsional load. But very good when climbing and sitting. Total weight is 8kg as it is on the picture with GP5000 STR 25mm and 40ml fluid in each tyre.

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Some weight
454 front - 721 gram
454 rear - 865 gram

Ready roval rear - 1554 gram
Ready 454 rear - 1491 gram

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The bike looks great.
I've been looking at replica Zipp 454s for a while. Sun Bike store seems to have gone, and all the ones I've found have said that the external wheel width is 25mm. but Zipp's website says it should be 28mm. Could I ask what the width of yours are? Did you note the internal width.
Thanks for sharing this build.

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The bike looks great.
I've been looking at replica Zipp 454s for a while. Sun Bike store seems to have gone, and all the ones I've found have said that the external wheel width is 25mm. but Zipp's website says it should be 28mm. Could I ask what the width of yours are? Did you note the internal width.
Thanks for sharing this build.

You can customize the wave series from Farsports, they will be wider, full T800, and you're not buying a fake anything. They look like the Princeton waves.
25mm wide rims are old school by today's standards, it means if you run a 28C, you'll have a lightbult effect that will slow you down materially. I wouldn't buy road rims under 28mm.

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https://www.proxcarbon.com/prox-carbon-road-undulating-depth-disc-wheels-c52db-ratchet-freehub-system_p97.html

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The bike looks great.
I've been looking at replica Zipp 454s for a while. Sun Bike store seems to have gone, and all the ones I've found have said that the external wheel width is 25mm. but Zipp's website says it should be 28mm. Could I ask what the width of yours are? Did you note the internal width.
Thanks for sharing this build.

Sun bike store have a new name. Here comes everything you need.
454 wasn't on the webpage so I asked her for them.
ZEEUQI BIKE Store
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102522910?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000008.6.5ae81e3b20nbGB

WhatsApp number
+8615999671996

I didn't measure the internal width. They are around 26mm on top and 28mm a bit down. I think the spec said 21mm inside. Or was it 23mm? Don't remember.
This is with 25mm GP5000 STR.

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Hi, Thanks for all the info. I'm pleased that the wheels seem the right size. Sadly, that link has gone already! I don't do WhatsApp but I might have to give it a go.
The ProX wheels look good too, but I really like the Zipp. I think the Farsports are too expensive.
Thanks for your help.

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Adding the link again to but I notice it kills the link.

ZEEUQI BIKE Store
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102522910?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000008.6.5ae81e3b20nbGB

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102522910?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.pcShopHead_2004351178998.0

Testing a link to my hubs
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005380110516.html?gps-id=pcStoreJustForYou&scm=1007.23125.137358.0&scm_id=1007.23125.137358.0&scm-url=1007.23125.137358.0&pvid=2d8de9c3-7a17-4f76-a7fe-32f039dccb84&_t=gps-id:pcStoreJustForYou,scm-url:1007.23125.137358.0,pvid:2d8de9c3-7a17-4f76-a7fe-32f039dccb84,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238112%231997&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21SEK%21860.66%21619.68%21%21%21%21%21%402101c5c216903594538584746e2561%2112000032844597062%21rec%21SE%21&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartJustForYou_2005225719513.8

And my 50mm Roval wheels
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005338519628.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.4.251b1cabH9zuj4&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21SEK%21SEK%206%2C882.43%21SEK%204%2C955.35%21%21%21%21%21%402101d64d16903595209113832ea2de%2112000032668329918%21sh%21SE%211717561530

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Sadly, that link has gone already!

They work now.

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Thanks. It seems that if I copy the text of the link and paste it into the address bar, it works. If I click on it, it just takes me to the Ali home page.
Thanks for the links.

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Some updates. The included lower headset bearing lasted less than 3500km. Bike have now 5500km in total. Will switch to 30mm Continental GP5000 S TR from 25mm and see how it handles.
F frame instead of F12 frame would be fun to try.

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Some updates. The included lower headset bearing lasted less than 3500km. Bike have now 5500km in total. Will switch to 30mm Continental GP5000 S TR from 25mm and see how it handles.
F frame instead of F12 frame would be fun to try.

Thank you for this thread and for keeping it updated, it's very helpful. I have very mixed feelings about riding fakes, but it's good to know that the people selling fakes aren't automatically selling garbage.

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6070km now and I can really recommend 30mm tyres. Much more comfort and some added speed. Better ride feel overall.
New headset bearing with better quality also gave the bike a better feel so if I build something again it should be upgraded directly.
HG701 chain lasted around 5500km with muc of dry lube so I switched to Squirt wax now.