Author Topic: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort  (Read 26821 times)

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2023, 12:06:44 AM »
I built two wheelsets with 791/792 Novatecs. Bought them on Ali during the last two years. Both have been bulletproof so far. I like that they are easily convertible. One of the wheelsets has been used with thru axle and now it’s in a frame with QR dropouts. The other wheelset has been used with Shimano freehub. Then with Sram XDR and now with a Campagnolo N3W freehub and an Ekar groupset. This flexibility is a huge plus with Novatec hubs IMO. I have however had freehub bearings fail prematurely particularly on Novatec freehub bodies.

Same here... I have built several wheelsets with the 411/412 and 791/792 hubs and I am quite happy with them, certainly given the price. You have to keep an eye on the bearings, yes, but they are easy to replace. Replacement parts and body are easy to find (the Novatec site and Ali) and are quite cheap.

wwnero

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2023, 01:13:47 PM »
How much are y’all paying for the novatec hubs? I’m seeing ~$210 CAD on alix for the 411/412 which is about $40-50 cheaper then dt 350. Once you factor in the likelihood that the bearing won’t last too long doesn’t it make more sense to get the dt 350? I guess the biggest downside to the dt 350 is the extra 100g.

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2023, 01:16:19 PM »
I paid 110eur for the last set I bought during the sales in November. It was with a HG body. XD will be more expensive

federic000

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2023, 01:47:05 PM »
I bought an original dt350 CL boost and it weights 219 grams, SRAM XD . Are you sure there's extra weight compared to D412?

Sebastian

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2023, 01:54:57 PM »
How much are y’all paying for the novatec hubs? I’m seeing ~$210 CAD on alix for the 411/412 which is about $40-50 cheaper then dt 350. Once you factor in the likelihood that the bearing won’t last too long doesn’t it make more sense to get the dt 350? I guess the biggest downside to the dt 350 is the extra 100g.

When I bought the 791/792, they were about 80 EUR per set on Ali. I think they're more expensive now. Either way, that's way cheaper than a set of DT350s. I wouldn't even get a rear hub for that money, let alone a complete set.
I only ever had trouble with the freehub bearings on Novatec hubs. But even those can be replaced for very little money. So I think they're definitely worth their money. DTs are bulletproof as well, however. If you're prepared to pay for them, that is. I got a set with 350s and they just last and last.

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2023, 02:16:53 PM »
I bought an original dt350 CL boost and it weights 219 grams, SRAM XD . Are you sure there's extra weight compared to D412?

I don't think they are heavier. A little more expensive, but I must say I have also been thinking of going that route

wwnero

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2023, 07:12:08 PM »
When I bought the 791/792, they were about 80 EUR per set on Ali. I think they're more expensive now. Either way, that's way cheaper than a set of DT350s. I wouldn't even get a rear hub for that money, let alone a complete set.
I only ever had trouble with the freehub bearings on Novatec hubs. But even those can be replaced for very little money. So I think they're definitely worth their money. DTs are bulletproof as well, however. If you're prepared to pay for them, that is. I got a set with 350s and they just last and last.

Ya 80 EUR is a solid price for the set. I’m seeing about 110 EUR just for the rear dt 350 and another 40 EUR for the front. I’m just doing preliminary research on building my own wheels and hopefully in a few months I will actually do it. For those that are not building their own wheels and are paying a LBS to do the work, I would only go for the novatec hubs if the price difference is >100CAD (70EUR). Anything less and it doesn’t make much sense considering the reliability factor and cost to get a LBS to do the hub maintenance (~50-70CAD in my area).

I would also look out for some sales in the near future for the previous gen 350 hubs now that they finally released an updated version of the road hub 2 weeks ago.

federic000

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2023, 01:15:03 PM »
I don't think they are heavier. A little more expensive, but I must say I have also been thinking of going that route

I have a set of Velosa MTB wheels, with their own replica of a DT350. On the front i replaced bearings almost immediately.on the rear I put original DT ratchet because the one installed jumped over its teeth continuously, after 1 year i noticed the cassette was not straight when rotating, but an oscillating phenomenon was hurting gear shifts. Eventually i replaced the hub with the real one....but of course this is just my experience i guess novatec is far better than these replicas

maza

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2023, 04:46:48 PM »
Any recommendations for budget hubs ticking following boxes: 11s shimano road compatible, 135mm QR, center lock preferred over 6 bolt. Looking to modernize my older CX frame.

bremerradkurier

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #69 on: March 10, 2023, 11:27:43 AM »
Any recommendations for budget hubs ticking following boxes: 11s shimano road compatible, 135mm QR, center lock preferred over 6 bolt. Looking to modernize my older CX frame.

BDOP Cycling-$170 for just the hubs or $350 as a DIY wheelset build kit

https://bdopcycling.com/hubs-xcross-2/

https://bdopcycling.com/product/bdop-diy-kit-alloy-road-disc-xi/

jefflinde

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #70 on: March 10, 2023, 01:09:36 PM »
Any recommendations for budget hubs ticking following boxes: 11s shimano road compatible, 135mm QR, center lock preferred over 6 bolt. Looking to modernize my older CX frame.

I am pretty sure the Novatec 411/412 can be run as a QR with the end caps.  those tick all of your boxes and are super light and affordable (110-130$ for the pair)

Rufusz

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #71 on: March 21, 2023, 06:56:57 AM »
Hi all.
I'm looking for budget Boost hubs with MS and Centerlock.
Goldix M370 or Novatec? Novatec has a significant weight penalty but maybe reliable due to the pawl system vs the ratchet on the Goldix.

Any thoughts?

lukwy

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2023, 07:02:36 AM »
Hi, why not ZTTO M1? I got the set one season and as far it looks OK. Little less weight than DT350.
FS: Carbonda FM936, XT/SLX 1x12, 2.4
Gravel: TanTan GR045, GRX820/105 2x12, 700x35c

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2023, 07:33:29 AM »
Hi all.
I'm looking for budget Boost hubs with MS and Centerlock.
Goldix M370 or Novatec? Novatec has a significant weight penalty but maybe reliable due to the pawl system vs the ratchet on the Goldix.

Any thoughts?

I have also been looking at all these other brands on Aliexpress. A lot are lighter or cheaper than Novatec but I like the availability of spare parts for the Novatec hubs... Here in the EU you can find a lot of parts in known webshops and the webshop of Novatec is very complete and reasonably priced.

There are sales at Ali for the moments with very tempting prices for the Novatec hubs.

Rufusz

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2023, 08:01:52 AM »
Hi, why not ZTTO M1? I got the set one season and as far it looks OK. Little less weight than DT350.
Thanks but  the ZTTO M1 thread is full of ratchet failures... Maybe the 36T is safer I have no idea.