Author Topic: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?  (Read 8308 times)

kbike

I ordered from cwind. They responded to me when I asked about not offering the 7x9 clamp.

They say read the packing list not the pictures.  They say the pictures only show that 7x9 option is possible not offered.

I ordered the 7x9 clamps that look like bottle caps. They are to large and will not fit inside the seatpost. There are 7x9 clamps I think will work but will not post links for overly priced products.

For right now the frame can only do 7x7 imo.

There is no tire clearance issues for the fd.

cr060 vbr168 rf22 compared

The cr060 is more relaxed gravel position.

The rf22 has a longer top tube than the vbr168 but less setback on the seatpost.

kbike

pictures

J0a_87

Thanks a lot for the information and pictures  :D. What size did you get?

kbike

Those are all 49cm and  handle bars 100x400 stem except the cr060 is really wide weird flare.

badIuck

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2022, 06:57:26 AM »
I ordered from cwind. They responded to me when I asked about not offering the 7x9 clamp.

They say read the packing list not the pictures.  They say the pictures only show that 7x9 option is possible not offered.

I ordered the 7x9 clamps that look like bottle caps. They are to large and will not fit inside the seatpost. There are 7x9 clamps I think will work but will not post links for overly priced products.

For right now the frame can only do 7x7 imo.

There is no tire clearance issues for the fd.

cr060 vbr168 rf22 compared

The cr060 is more relaxed gravel position.

The rf22 has a longer top tube than the vbr168 but less setback on the seatpost.

Hey, can you measure the actual width of the 32c gp5000 on yourVB 168 and the 38c Gravelkings on the rf22? How much clearance is there left?
Trying to decide between those frames and looking to run tires measuring in at 34-35mm actual width. I would prefer the 168 because of the lower fork and cleaner looks. I am afraid the rf22 might have quite large gaps at the seat tube and fork with 34mm tires which I dont really like aesthatically.

kbike

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2022, 09:17:26 AM »
I don't think 34mm is possible on the 168.  I could put 32mm gravelking ss on it. I couldn't use 33mm donnelly pdx cause they rubbed on fork and chainstay.

The rf22 has a lot of tire clearance on the fork I'd bet 42mm. Chainstay I could fit a 40mm with right tire rim combination and very tight clearance. I don't like tight clearances on wet gravel cause of damaging the fork or stays.

The rf22 with 35mm tires will have gaps.
I'll get pics of 168 with 32mm, Rf22 with 32 and 38mm
I'll try to get pictures up later.

badIuck

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2022, 04:30:34 PM »
Thanks for the quick feedback. Some more pictures would be really great. I wish there was something like a Cervelo Caledonia or the new Sarto Raso. Aero shape/road bike look and geometry with 35mm tire clearance. I don't think something like that exists from the chinese direct sales manufacturers.
I like to use Schwalbe Pro One 34mm (actual 34.5mm) for everything from smooth pavement to gravel. I wish I could have a road bike with those tires and not a gravel bike even though the differences between road and gravel frames are small...

kbike

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2022, 09:00:32 PM »
The amount of tire clearance for both frames is the same. 
The 168 I have 32mm gp5000 trs with winspace hypers
The rf22 I have 38mm panaracer slicks with 30mm rims.

I think it's possible for both to fit 2mm larger slick tires with the right tire/rim combination on both frames. I also wouldn't be surprised if the tires end up rubbing.

I have a frame that runs much closer tires but it is an aero frame I only use on good days and roads.  I also have to keep the rim very true.

kbike

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2022, 09:03:16 PM »
pictures

badIuck

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2022, 04:44:26 AM »
Looks like I should go with the rf22 although I think the 168 looks a bit nicer. But 34mm Pro One on 24mm inner width rims is a bit too close for comfort..
Thanks again for the help!

ChrisB

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2022, 07:49:12 AM »
Some update to my "Gravel Blues" build with the updated Sensah SRX PRO derailleur with improved chain tension clutch.
Had issues with the chain touching the chain stays when riding in the harder gears on gravel surfaces. Will see how well this update works in real life.
On the stand the tension seems higher and more stable...



BR Chris
« Last Edit: December 03, 2022, 06:44:01 AM by ChrisB »

mahaj

Re: Chasing wind-GT20 OR Airwolf YFR045 carbon Gravel frames , any experience ?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2022, 01:56:07 AM »
I noticed that Cwind now offers the GT20 with a T47 bottom bracket https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004927226677.html. I ordered one, expected to arrive in late Jan.

mahaj

Here’s a picture of my finished bike. Steerer tube will be cut once I’m certain about the cockpit position. I’ve ridden around 500 km and am very pleased with the frame, no issues while building either. Mechanical Apex groupset and Mavic Allroad wheels came from my previous bike, rest of the parts are from Aliexpress.

mtbluvr68

2021 Tan Tan Seraph FM027  w/Light Bicycle wheels(XC)
2022 Marin Rift Zone 3 w/ elite wheels (trail)
2021 Tideace FMR185 w/Light Bicycle Wheels (road)
2023  Chasing Wind w/ elite wheels (Gravel)