Frame req? (Aero, dropped SS, high stack, short reach)

[Nkearb]

I think the only issue with recent aero frames is the stack is too low. 32c Tire clearance frames can typically fit 35c


If we just had a specific bar&stem that added a good amount of stack without looking stupid or require 100 spacers that would solve basically all issues

[Daviddavieboy]

I think the only issue with recent aero frames is the stack is too low. 32c Tire clearance frames can typically fit 35c

 Exactly why something like a pinarello x is perfect for an all round bike IMO. For what XM has for frames the CS-GR01 (gravel frame) has excellent geometry but way to wide tire clearance for my taste in a road bike. I am so have a CS-R01 and with 5 cm of spacers it’s not bad but slammed it feels like my SuperSix. It will fit a tire that measures 35 ish though.

[janp]

I agree that $1,350 (excluding shipping but including the handlebar) is somewhat ambiguous. However, instead of just discussing the price, I’d like to contribute some constructive ideas on what features could justify a higher cost.

Here are a few things I’d love to see:

1) Seamless integration of a speed/cadence sensor – Similar to the Trek Madone, where the sensor mounts cleanly to the NDS chainstay without the hassle of rubber bands. This makes setup and maintenance much easier.

2) High-quality thru-axle with an integrated removal tool – A design where the covers sit flush with the frame and fork, adding both functionality and aesthetics. (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008359478298.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.4f6ehC5lhC5lPJ&algo_pvid=016a5eac-a290-408a-8815-4d7dcff462f7&algo_exp_id=016a5eac-a290-408a-8815-4d7dcff462f7-6&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%228%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21194.78%2197.39%21%21%211440.68%21720.34%21%40%2112000044713324168%21sea%21DE%216019405720%21X&curPageLogUid=XH8cDlNu4Dxo&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A)

3) Rubber plates at the fork ends – This would allow the fork to rest on the ground when the front wheel is removed, preventing damage.

I’m sure the community here has plenty of additional ideas—features that wouldn’t significantly increase production costs but would add real value to the frame.

Lastly, regarding pricing: As a European customer, I find it frustrating to pay an extra ~10% due to transaction fees (5% for PayPal plus unfavorable exchange rates). Offering direct bank transfers as a payment option would save me money—money I’d happily reinvest into a higher-end frame.

At the end of the day, total cost of ownership is what really matters to me.

Looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts!

[jeffrey]

I'm continuing my search but still no results outside of the big brands.
I really can't understand why chinese manufacturers put out so many race frames that are all the same thing, and no one offers something with geometry similar to the Trek Domane

[neobiker]

Lightcarbon had a model [LCG072-D], but it was purchased for an exclusive licensing. I reckon it is a matter of time before they announce a new model which should cover your need.

[Blueberry]

How do people feel about the new Winspace C5 Aero? It looks vaguely interesting but I'm suspicious it might be more of that faux aero thing several brands are doing now.

[Nkearb]

How do people feel about the new Winspace C5 Aero? It looks vaguely interesting but I'm suspicious it might be more of that faux aero thing several brands are doing now.

C5 aero looks good if you want an endurance aero frame, except without the endurance geo and with no money spent on r&d or testing for aero