Yes same on my side about the LCR017-D. The weight is super interesting but the Geo is a little bit to aggressive.
The R1058-D looks more relaxed but the SL Version is still not available...
Standard is to heavy with 1050g for frame if you want to build a up a bike for events with a lot of climbing and a long time in the saddle.
Anybody other proposals?
New member here - I also have the same dilemma, and will share my thoughts.
First, these are my filters/criteria:
- I live in a hilly area, so I’d like to have an all-arounder, ideally with frame weight below 1000g
- Somewhat aero, but I’ll be building up the bike with 40-45mm wheels which will speak more to aero advantages
- I don’t race anymore but I still do fast group rides, so I’m looking for a frame with somewhat forgiving geometry – not quite upright like the Endurace but also not a crit bike
- 32mm tire clearance
- Under US$1000 (which rules out Yoeleo, Winspeed, Seka, etc.)
The 017 hits most of these notes, and Lightcarbon also do pretty decent custom frame painting and decals. But like you guys, I’m a bit hesitant about the long-ish reach. The stack/reach ratio for a 52cm frame comes to 1.33, which I’ll use as the basis for comparison.
Some of the others I’ve been looking at include:
Velobuild 177 (
https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/2023-vb-r-177-super-light-carbon-fiber-road-frame-disc-version-hidden-cables): this is marketed as an endurance frame, but the geometry is similar to the LC017, with similar reach but lower stack. The stack/reach ratio is 1.38, slightly more relaxed than the LC017. Some of the pluses of the 177 are, for me: T1000 carbon, standard 27.2 seat post, available with both zero and offset seat post, Velobuild does custom painting, the frame is US$500, but … Velobuild seems to be more hit and miss in terms of quality, which worries me because I’m a first time bike builder.
Velobuild 268 (
https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/velobuild-2024-vb-r-268-carbon-fiber-aero-road-frame-disc-integrated-cables): geometry is very close to the VB177 and LC017, with a stack/reach ratio of 1.35. The biggest pluses of the 268 are, for me: it’s a newer frame, so hopefully some of the known issues around the VB168 and VB177 have been addressed. But, it’s too early to say (anxiously waiting for @patliean1’s review!), I'm not sold on the weird Mavic through axles, and it’s slightly heavier at 1000g.
Workswell 316 (
https://www.workswellbikes.com/endurance/wcb-r-316-disc-brake.html): this, too, is marketed as an endurance frame, but again, the geometry is similar to the LC017 and the VB177, with a slightly shorter reach and slightly longer stack. The stack/reach ratio is 1.38. The pluses of the 316 are, for me: mix of T800 and T1000 carbon, the light version of the frame is 950g, and I was quoted US$890 for the frame. On the other hand, Workswell does not do custom painting, and there is less info/reviews for Workswell and specifically for this frame.
Some other frames I’ve looked at include the Longteng 268D (
https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/21.html) with 1.40 stack/reach ratio, but slightly over 1000g, and the Longteng 266 (
https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/211.html) with 1.37 stack/reach ratio - but Longteng has been slow to respond after several attempts to reach them. And the Workswell 366 (
https://www.workswellbikes.com/endurance/wcb-r-366(disc-brake).html), with 1.39 stack/reach ratio, $800, but 1130g, and as mentioned above, Workswell doesn’t do custom painting.
I’m sure you guys have looked at some of these options as well, and maybe like me have thought deep into the night about which frame is the most suitable. I’m a new member here but really enjoy the community and the spirit of sharing here – would love to hear some thoughts and if there are other options to consider!
[Edited to add LT266]
