Yishun, Velobuild etc. like Canyon frames geometry

[KINGBERRY]

Hello folks,

I'm new here and wanted to ask if there are frames from Yishun, Velobuild, etc. that are comparable to the Canyon Ultimate CF SL or the new Canyon Endurace CFR?

I'm not a racer, but I don't like it extremely comfortable either, I'd rather have a sporty seating position, i.e. exactly in between.

Here are my measurements, which I determined myself (based on this page https://www.bike-x.de/rennrad/ratge...e-und-optimale-sitzposition-fuer-ihr-rennrad/):

Inseam length (S): 86 cm
Body length (K): 154 cm
Body length (R): 68 cm
Arm length (A): 60 cm
Height (KG): 186 cm

All the computers always spit out really strange frame sizes based on standard data. I tend to always take a size smaller than the frame size that manufacturers give me... i.e. at Canyon, for example. For example, the size L is shown, but I tend towards M? What do you all mean?

I mean, I'm always right on the border between the two sizes.

It would be nice if someone could help me with which frame size I need or which frame is suitable.

Regards
Christian

[joegal]

I'm new here and wanted to ask if there are frames from Yishun, Velobuild, etc. that are comparable to the Canyon Ultimate CF SL or the new Canyon Endurace CFR?

Hey, just a heads up: the ultimate and Endurace have a vastly different geometry... you probably should not mention them in the same sentence

From the back of my head, the Velobuild 066 (old external and new interally routed Version) is inspired by the Canyon Endurace, geometry-wise and look-wise. But i didn't compare the geometry charts.
https://www.velobuild.com/products/2023-vb-r-066-carbon-fiber-endurance-road-racing-bike-frame-disc-version

Based on your height and inseam, i wouldnt say your dimensions are that difficult to work with - no super long or short legs.

Best is to compare the frame geometrys of your existing bike, e.g via bike-insights.

[jokage]

It's like joegal said. Use BikeInsights to compare bikes https://bikeinsights.com/compare

If you already have a bike, find the bike model in BikeInsights and compare it to other frames that interest you.

If you don't have any, I suggest for you go to a local bike dealer and let them help you find your size. Remember the model and the size and find it in BikeInsights.

[KINGBERRY]

Hey, just a heads up: the ultimate and Endurace have a vastly different geometry... you probably should not mention them in the same sentence

From the back of my head, the Velobuild 066 (old external and new interally routed Version) is inspired by the Canyon Endurace, geometry-wise and look-wise. But i didn't compare the geometry charts.
https://www.velobuild.com/products/2023-vb-r-066-carbon-fiber-endurance-road-racing-bike-frame-disc-version

Based on your height and inseam, i wouldnt say your dimensions are that difficult to work with - no super long or short legs.

Best is to compare the frame geometrys of your existing bike, e.g via bike-insights.

Hey, thanks for the reponse. Yeah I know they are completely different. I am searching something in between. A little bit more sporty than the Endurace, but not as racey as the Ultimate.

I have a Gravelbike Cannondale Topstone in Size L. And an Votec VRC PRO (Size XL), which is an allroad bike, but the frame is way too big, so I cannot compare that Frame with other frames. The bike has an Ultegra Di2 installed, which I want to convert to a roadbike frame. And the western brands are too expensive for me, so I decided to buy a Chinese frame. Velobuild looking good. Yishun is convenient because they have a warehouse in Germany, because I'm from Germany. Would be the easiest way.

What about that frame:
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/r068-dperformance-road// in Size 56

Regards
Christian

[joegal]

What about that frame:
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/r068-dperformance-road// in Size 56

The 068 looks like it could match your needs. https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=64e1237c909fa3001af0d10d,64f1dcc50f4eac001a44ba89,

Compared to the endurace in size M, its a bit longer and lower, so a bit more racey, but its not a full-on race position.

However, its hard to recommend a Bike fit based on measurements, it also depends on your flexibility ans preferences.
I'd recommend to compare with your gravel bike and see if you could tolerate going longer/lower or if you need a relaxed position.

Greetings from Germany! i hope you got a great deal on your Votec, so it doesnt hurt that you bought the wrong size!

[PLA]

What about that frame:
https://www.yishunbike.com/product/r068-dperformance-road// in Size 56

Regards
Christian

I just bought one to replace my endurance cf 7. I wanted something a bit stiffer and a little more racey, but not too low due to my dimensions. 068 seemed to be a good match.

[Takiyaki]

I think the Velobuild VB-R-066 is an Endurace copy cat. Probably Velobuild's least aggressive bike.