Author Topic: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)  (Read 81806 times)

TidyDinosaur

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2024, 02:25:29 AM »
That’s the thing tho… I can buy the EDS TX currently for $900-$1100 AUD, SRAM will cost me $1900-$2400AUD for a etap rival set.

The pricing is decent for me, I just gotta figure out if the risk is worth it.

Yeah, it's totally different here in the EU. For a couple 100 more you get a decent and proven groupset...

Maybe just wait a couple of months until the first reviews are out?

toxin

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2024, 05:51:41 AM »
You aren't though. The only thing is Sram chains are needed for Sram cassettes. You can definitely use non-Sram 16t gap 12 speed chainrings just fine. People are using Shimano and Campagnolo 12 spd cassettes with AXS as well.

Sram Force chains also are really cheap to run because they last a long time.

Chains, cassettes and chainrings are a place where the big brands have a huge leg up right now.

I believe competition is great and that without Ltwoo and Wheeltop the Apex and GX AXS wouldnt exist. If wheeltop could have retained the removable battery, an 1x13 electronic group using the Ekar cassettes would have been amazing. I have doubts though about how usable this product will be though after the lawyers had a go.

We also dont know if the drop bar levers can work with MTB RD, right? Could be a great mullet option.

You're limited to a 50:11 max in that case and with sram's sensitive front derraileur going beyond 13t jump on the front will be dubious. Without the 10t cog you have to commit to either a high lowest gear or a low highest gear.

pearl

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2024, 06:50:30 AM »
The cheapest AXS setup is either getting Rival levers on sale (target <$300 for left and right + brakes) or the Apex AXS exchange lever ($107-$112 list price) + Apex / S300 brake calipers ($39.99/ ea list) and brake bolts ($5.59 / set list) + Flat mount adapter ($19.99 ea) + a Rival Axs 36 / XPLR RD (seem to be plenty of new ones sub $200) + Battery set. Should be really close to $600 for all the hoses + shifty bits. Might be less.

I need to get the force rim brake shifters, ($500) plus you leave out the crankset since I can't use the 11 speed I already have

If I went this route I would only need the 4 pieces and I can keep my 11 speed cassette/crankset
« Last Edit: January 18, 2024, 06:56:34 AM by pearl »

Sakizashi

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2024, 11:05:42 AM »
You're limited to a 50:11 max in that case and with sram's sensitive front derraileur going beyond 13t jump on the front will be dubious. Without the 10t cog you have to commit to either a high lowest gear or a low highest gear.

I really dont get the aversion to the 10t. Its not a gear you use much when power efficiency matters, even when sprinting. I think that for most people a 48/32 with a 10-29 (Campagnolo) or 10-28(Sram) is a fantastic mix of range and tight sprockets. If you want more range the Sram 10-33 is brilliant with tight spacing on the lower sprockets and a nice bailout gear if you need it. If you are really strong a 50/34 big ring with a 10t is more gear than most riders can push

My bikes have worked fine with the 16t from Easton, Shimano and Praxis; but worth noting that even Shimano drops to 14t gaps with their rings used by pro riders as there is an inherent shift speed advantage. SRAM Fds are problematic since you really need to keep them straight during setup, which requires care even with their setup tool. Would be really interesting to see if Wheeltop did better with their design in terms of easier setup.

I need to get the force rim brake shifters, ($500) plus you leave out the crankset since I can't use the 11 speed I already have

If I went this route I would only need the 4 pieces and I can keep my 11 speed cassette/crankset

Sorry, i spaced on that being a rim brake bike. Feel like an idiot right now.

toxin

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2024, 12:22:27 PM »
The point is that in this case I don't mind the 10t cog, but to be able use a 10t cog you need srams casettes chains and freehubs

pearl

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2024, 02:03:37 PM »
d on that being a rim brake bike. Feel like an idiot right now.

i feel like an idiot trying to putting $1000 groupset on a bike from 2004 lol

tbgallant

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2024, 10:25:11 AM »

Shimano 105 R7100 Di2
Current price on aliexpress around 800 USD.

Can anybody send me a link for R7100 Di2 on Ali for $800 USD??

Tim

Fleckinger

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2024, 04:19:06 PM »
Can anybody send me a link for R7100 Di2 on Ali for $800 USD??

Tim

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005735102271.html or just find anrancee cycling Store on AliExpress
« Last Edit: January 19, 2024, 04:21:34 PM by Fleckinger »

« Last Edit: January 20, 2024, 11:23:52 AM by Taicho_Cyclist »

raisinberry777

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2024, 01:22:06 PM »
I just unboxed my EDS TX... build to follow...

https://taichocyclist.wixsite.com/mysite/post/unboxing-series-wheeltop-eds-tx-wireless-electronic-groupset

First person to have their hands on a retail set to upload on YouTube - very brave!


avocadobike

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2024, 08:57:36 PM »
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005735102271.html or just find anrancee cycling Store on AliExpress

i'm assuming nobody has had troubles with one of these groupsets? price looks delish.

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2024, 12:41:46 AM »
looking forward to this

Nothing ventured nothing gained/pained?!  ;D

cramy

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2024, 01:44:53 AM »
I just unboxed my EDS TX... build to follow...

https://taichocyclist.wixsite.com/mysite/post/unboxing-series-wheeltop-eds-tx-wireless-electronic-groupset

nice thank you, just take care that sram and the eds include the battery, while shimano the battery is in the seatpost, so your total weight is not 100% accurate for shimano

Re: WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2024, 08:55:15 AM »
Well the Shimano weights are for references anyway but you have highlighted a very good point, thank you!