Author Topic: IP-256SL Winter Build  (Read 23149 times)

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2014, 10:24:38 AM »
Just got back from my initial ride, not just on this bike, but my first MTB ride ever. Man, what a lot of fun, and so different than riding on the road. I rode from my house to the State Park trailhead, which is about 2 miles on a mix of paved and dirt roads. The trail was mostly covered in wet leaves, but also had some big mud puddles, some sandy sections, some rocks and roots. So it's a pretty good mix of terrain I'd guess. I rode about 5 miles in there then had to get home, so it was a pretty quick ride.

Overall MTB'ing Impressions: It was a different kind of fun than riding on the road. I feel like the road is more "sophisticated" fun, if that makes sense. Maybe it's not the right word. Going fast, carving corners, being smooth etc... On the MTB I felt like a kid again. Smashing through puddles, bouncing over rocks and roots, getting completely filthy. I can totally see how people leave the road and just do MTB, its more relaxed and just more carefree. I still enjoy the speed and group riding / racing of the road a lot, so I plan to keep doing them both, best of both worlds! I do need to adjust my riding for the trail, though. On a couple of short, steep climbs on wet leaves, I stood up and immediately lost traction in the rear and just spun my tire. Need to remember to stay seated and get that traction. My wrist is a little sore from the different hand position of the flat bar, so I'm hoping I'll get used to that.

On the bike: Again, I don't have any other comparisons, but the bike felt great. I had to stop a few times and adjust my saddle position (it's weird feeling so upright on a bike) and both of my rotors are rubbing slightly. Oh, and I need to bleed the rear brake, it was pretty much useless. I ran around 28-30 psi in my tires, which was good on the trail. On the roads, I felt like the low pressure was slowing me down. Maybe that's a difference I need to get used to. On the road bike, I feel like I need to go as fast as I can all the time, maybe on the MTB, I should just relax and enjoy it. The bike surprised me how nimble it was, it turned a lot quicker than I thought it would, and it did feel really light out there (even though my bike is probably one of the heavier 256's). The 1x10 worked awesome, no drops. I did cut my chain too short, so I couldn't use the big cog. There were a couple spots it would have been nice to have, but I didn't have to get off and walk. I would say that the best thing I bought on this bike was the remote lockout. I must have locked out the fork a couple dozen times during my ride.

Finally, a question on the fork. Should I be using all of my travel? I felt like I only used about 50% of it. When I raced motorcycles, we used to put zip ties on the forks to see how much travel you used and then you'd adjust it to make sure you are using most of your travel. Is that something MTB'ers do too? If so, and I'm not using all of my travel, what do I do, take some air out of the fork?

Thanks!


« Last Edit: December 17, 2014, 10:43:39 AM by blueducati »

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2014, 10:37:16 AM »
Another few noon questions:

1- do you guys clean your bike after a muddy ride like this? I'd clean my road bike, but it's rare that it gets that muddy. Not sure if you guys clean them only to get dirty again.

2- is it bad etiquette to ride trails when they are so soft? I don't want to ruin the trail or anything.

MTB2223

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2014, 12:04:25 PM »
Nice to see you have so much fun on a MTB in such short trip.

1 - I always clean my chain and the fd and rd. and most of the time the complete bike. Don't like to start on a dirty bike.
2 - No, it's not bad etiquette to ride the trail when they are soft, muddy and wet. In the Netherlands it's not a problem. Our trails are never closed.

About the travel: if you use 99% of your travel, that's perfect. Same as on your motorcycle.

jwilds1

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2014, 12:59:28 PM »
Congrats on the first ride!  Bike looks great.  A few followup items:

1) Check out MMBA.org - huge forum with constantly updated trail conditions.  Don't worry too much about riding in the mud.  Personally, I don't do it just because of the cleaning PITA.

2)  Fork travel - does your fork have a rubber o-ring on one of the damper rods?  It serves exactly the same purpose as your zip tie.

blueducati

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2014, 01:59:45 PM »
Thanks guys. I washed my bike yesterday afternoon. It was a little painful since it was so cold. In fact, the water froze on the bike before I got a chance to dry it off.

I'll put a zip tie around my fork (I didn't see an o-ring on there..) and see how much travel I use.  I'm planning on going out tomorrow again, however I tried to bleed my rear brake and I found that my the special bleed screw (Magura calls it an EBT screw) on the lever is stripped. It's a plastic screw that has a torque requirement of 0.5Nm, so I must have over-torque'd it. I think it's letting air in, because I did a full bleed and the rear still isn't working very well. I have some new screws on order. I think it got the disc rubbing issue fixed in the mean time.

Other than that, the front brake is super powerful, I really like it. I rarely use my rear anyways, again a carryover from motorcycle racing.



325racer

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2014, 08:04:54 PM »
As others said, I try to clean the moving bits, but I try to keep it shiny and clean, not toothbrush clean as some do.

As for riding in the mud, when I lived in New England we rode anytime.  In southern California we are more careful because the ground doesn't hold water well in places.   Some turn into full on clay that will stick on anything, literally doubling the size of tires until they won't turn, if you step down, then your shoes are clayed up and you cant get in peddles. So yeah in SoCal its not always good to ride when its wet.

Vipassana

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2014, 12:32:15 AM »
I clean and lube the chain every ride for the most part.  Since we're mostly dusty out here I'll blow the bike off with the air compressor frequently.  Maybe once a month I'll do a tooth brush cleaning.  Part of me wants to keep the carbon parts clean so I can look for any cracks or defects.

Congrats on the build, BTW.  It will be a great ride and it will serve you well.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2014, 12:34:36 AM by Vipassana »

RS VR6

Re: IP-256SL Winter Build
« Reply #67 on: December 30, 2014, 04:05:17 PM »
Another few noon questions:

1- do you guys clean your bike after a muddy ride like this? I'd clean my road bike, but it's rare that it gets that muddy. Not sure if you guys clean them only to get dirty again.

2- is it bad etiquette to ride trails when they are so soft? I don't want to ruin the trail or anything.

1- after a muddy ride like that...I do clean off the bike. After some recent rain in So Cal, the bike did get a bit muddier than usual. My GF went through the grand daddy of mud puddles...I spent a decent amount of time cleaning it off. :o

2- depending on the amount of rain...I'll typically wait 2 or 3 days after the rain stops. While it can be fun to ride in the mud...it sucks to clean off the bikes when they get that dirty. I say "bikes"...I have to clean my GF's bike too.

Sometimes its frowned upon to ride right after a rain around here. Depending on where you go...riding in the mud can really tear up the trails.

Oh...nice ride BTW!  ;D