Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201

[markusstaden]

Hey guys,

Getting ready to jump into the gravel world and the Tantan GR201 frame looks like a great option.

I'm 195cm and trying to figure out the right size. Would the 58cm be the way to go for my height? Anyone else around this height on a GR201?

Also wondering about Tantan's own wheels. Thinking of grabbing them too, but I haven't really seen any reviews anywhere. Has anyone here tried them out? Worth it?

Coming from MTB, my first thought was a 1x setup. But for how I plan to use this bike – mostly road with the occasional gravel detour – I'm leaning more towards a 2x now.

The only way I'd probably stick with 1x is if I could run a big ring like 48t for road speed. But reading around here, it sounds like putting a 48t on the front with 1x might be an issue on this frame. Is that right?

[AFE]

Hard to say that it will fit, based on just your height. Have you tried comparing the frame with a bike that fits you well?

https://www.bike-stats.de/geometrie_vergleich

That would be the first thing, I would do.

Without knowing more I would say that 58 with 1,95 should be ok

[markusstaden]

I haven't really tried a whole lot of bikes other than MTBs...
Also don't have any experience on the influence of different specs.
I tried a friends Canyon Grail 1 in size XL, but that looks odd in every geometry comparison, due to the frame-integrated bars.
Also tried a rose backroad in L, that felt a little small, but I have no idea, how much another stem/cockpit can change.
Guess I have to try that, but i think, that could work out.

I find it a bit odd, that the are almost no reviews of the tantan wheels.
Would you think they are worth a shot, or should I stick to a known brand?

[pavlo.k]

I would also like to hear the opinion the taller guys who own this frame. The geo look ok on 58 apart from the headtube that's crazy short. I don't think theres a stack number on the geo chart but when compating fork length and a headtube to my current lightcarbon frame it looks like I will end up with a 4cm shorter stack in addition to this frame being quite a bit longer

[markusstaden]

I would also like to hear the opinion the taller guys who own this frame. The geo look ok on 58 apart from the headtube that's crazy short. I don't think theres a stack number on the geo chart but when compating fork length and a headtube to my current lightcarbon frame it looks like I will end up with a 4cm shorter stack in addition to this frame being quite a bit longer

I think the geometry states 602mm stack and 165mm headtube for the 580 version.

[Uberflo]

I would also like to hear the opinion the taller guys who own this frame. The geo look ok on 58 apart from the headtube that's crazy short. I don't think theres a stack number on the geo chart but when compating fork length and a headtube to my current lightcarbon frame it looks like I will end up with a 4cm shorter stack in addition to this frame being quite a bit longer

I measure 191 cm and ride the size 58 frame with 100 mm stem

[AFE]

189cm with 90mm stem. 

I guess you can try with 110mm Stem + a few spacers and/or a very sporty position on the bike.

If you are located in Berlin/ Germany by any chance you can test ride mine.

[patliean1]

Anyone *know the largest 2x chainring setup that will fit? Irrespective of tire clearance for the FD. Thanks

[SillyMochi]

189cm with 90mm stem. 

That seems a bit short? I'm 187cm, ordered the 58, and planning on putting a 120mm stem on it

[AFE]

If you have very short legs and long torso/arms, that might work. But I would not want to ride such a long stem on a gravel bike. Also to consider: reach of handlebar + STIs

I have moved saddle quite a bit forward since I don’t want to sit too far behind the bottom bracket and I would say that it fits me quite well.

[s3si1u]

Here's a shot of my finished frame. Just picked it up from the shop, I had them cut the fork and face all the mounting points. I finished painting a while ago and then put it in a box because life and stuff, but now I'm finally ready to build Can't wait to ride it.

[SillyMochi]

If you have very short legs and long torso/arms, that might work. But I would not want to ride such a long stem on a gravel bike. Also to consider: reach of handlebar + STIs

I have moved saddle quite a bit forward since I don’t want to sit too far behind the bottom bracket and I would say that it fits me quite well.

Quite the opposite, as most tall men, longer legs compared to rest. But I compared it to my VBR-268 which has a 400/100mm bar on a XL frame. That setup is actually a bit too small for me. Since the GR201 in 58 stacks higher, the effective reach is even shorter. That's why I was thinking about going longer. But maybe my position is just much more aggressive than what you are riding?

[AFE]

Maybe that’s the case. Did you consider the flatter seat tube angle also? If I compare those two frames I come to the conclusion that you will sit longer on the Tideace anyways.

IMHO you cannot just compare stack/reach.

[SillyMochi]

Yes, I used the "measurement" tool below to check actual distance between saddle and handlebar. I would adjust the saddle ofc to match my seated position (distance saddle to BB/pedals). Then with the same handlebar, I would have a reduced "actual reach" from saddle to hoods by about 15mm. So even with the longer stem, the bike wouldn't actually be longer at all. Or I am misinterpreting or missing something else completely ...

[MrMojo93]

My frame has arrived, and I've built it, I have an FSA No 69 headset: https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/no-69-srs
I have a rockshox rudy fork, and it seems like there is no gap on the crown of the fork, on the top it seems fine. I can't tighten the headset enough to not have play, but If I tighten it a bit more the fork won't move freely. What shims do I need, and where should I put them, or what should I do?

Thanks!