Looking for Tri/Short nose saddles

[ejump0]

So i recently just built a tri bike.
However as i can now slam forward my saddle to be above bb, my ism pl1.1 copy that i have been using on my TCR no longer work. the 5.5cm width now just felt too wide.

What i currently have:
- Ism PL1.1 copy: too wide 5.5cm nose, soft plastic base that sags.
- ori Giant Approach from my tcr: 3.5cm narrow 270mm long, and long nose hurts ma crotch on longer ride when holding into aggressive posi. this is what i currently use as it doesnt sag as i sit further back, felt best vs others i have.
- Pro Stealth copy, 4.5cm plastic base. nose is ok-ish, but base is soft n sags
- Racework Bontrager aeolus copy. similar as Pro stealth, even more soft n sag

Im looking for AliEx special that have hard base thas still ok for lil to no flex but no sag on longer use, long rails, short nose width 4-4.6cm tip, and widest wing part lesser than 145mm. lightweight not necessity, but bonus. not too high stack ie the rail is tall.
padding, anything thats not slippery n not too grippy destroying shorts should be fine.

I did took a look at 3d saddle thread, n it seems the 3d mesh has potential destroying shorts.

Still scouring aliEx. found these:
- Spesh Sitero copy, not sure nose width. Original sitero review however kinda 50-50. not sure about copy
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oC6GzPI
- Ztto slight modified of Sitero? 4.8cm nose :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDnqJi4
- same shape as ztto, carbon no padding. no nose width info. butt destroyer? :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_omY7DYo
- belugoe. i dont know this is referenced of what saddle. unknown nose width :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oCUKrZi
- ec90 fizik copy. straight noseless :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oFXmedQ

is there selle italia watt copy?

TiA

[dsveddy]

I have the padded carbon sitero copy, and the WildSide version in plastic and metal rails. The WildSide is slightly wider than the carbon. On both, I find it difficult to not sit pretty much on the nose, forward of the cutout. And I have pretty wide hips for a man AFAIK.

As a long-time sufferer of numbnutz, compared to my Spesh power saddle that is my reference, both are supremely comfortable for nose sitting, but will not make you impervious to numbness. I think for that you need something like a Dash saddle.

Anyways, it’s a nice saddle. Its width makes it hard to use a lot of the surface area, but also makes it fairly comfortable to sit on the nose. I’m still deciding if I’m going to swap out my power saddle, but I think it’s worth a shot if you think it could be a fit for you.

[ejump0]

As a long-time sufferer of numbnutz, compared to my Spesh power saddle that is my reference, both are supremely comfortable for nose sitting, but will not make you impervious to numbness. I think for that you need something like a Dash saddle.
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hey man.
thanks for your Sitero insights, and bringing up Dash saddle.

i've been trying to search that dash saddle via google img search after seeing it on pro tri bikes for the life of me with no result. super minimalist n looks padded just at right spot for aggressive positioning.

guess theres no identical chiner version of it. im also still trying to search selle Watt alternative.
i wish i could try carbon base+rail saddles(does carbon base with steel rail 7x7 exist?), but my saddle clamp wont work with 7x9 

*edit: just found out if i can find matching side clamp part for 7x9 on aliEx, i can convert my saddle clamp

[Serge_K]

I have an ISM Adamo road, it works.
These 3d printed saddles are actually quite nice as well, the non carbon version is pretty cheap. I use it on my road bike and it's quite ok to lay flat on the bars, so pelvis rotation works on that thing.
I tried 3 of the links you shared, and i'd say they all sucked in comparison.
Caveat: sample size of 1.