Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[Sander2177]

Hey man thanks so much for linking the magcad computer mount? do you happen to know if there are carbon fiber version of such 3d printed mounts?

And are both decals you have attached from SpeedyDecals or just the one below?

The purple decals are mine I’m having Matt Purple logos on my Gloss UD Carbon frame. Not keen on the Specilaized on the forks and chainstay I’m a less is more guy. My SL8 was repainted this year and I did not have them put back on.

The other decals are from Speedydecals site.

https://speedydecal.com/index.php?controller=search&s=SL8

But if your in the UK I know a Specilaized approved painter you can get decals from I would have ordered from them had I known before I ordered these decals. (Ooey Custom Paint)

[dovh]

Reporting back. Greased the surfaces of the wedge where they interface, carbon paste on side that rests against tt, creak gone.
Also my lockring wasn't hella tight.

I also greased it up and put the paste, and no more clicking noise.

Now the funny part.. While I was at it, I wanted to also grease up the saddle clamp parts as per the manual, and when I was putting it back together, I managed to cross-thread the saddle clamp bolt and strip the thread from that little nut that the bolt scrwes into. Until I get a replacement from tantan or manage to find the original part locally, I'm not riding the bike for a while by the looks of it..   

[Sander2177]

I also greased it up and put the paste, and no more clicking noise.

Now the funny part.. While I was at it, I wanted to also grease up the saddle clamp parts as per the manual, and when I was putting it back together, I managed to cross-thread the saddle clamp bolt and strip the thread from that little nut that the bolt scrwes into. Until I get a replacement from tantan or manage to find the original part locally, I'm not riding the bike for a while by the looks of it..   

Would a barrel nut not do the same job?

Or
Maybe this
https://www.performancebike.com/specialized-alpinist-upper-lower-seat-clamps-black-w-hardware-kit-s204900004/p1269982?srsltid=AfmBOopaFTJkUffOKx_O_bIMkixFrMTQwRdr8p_WNhuHQMf665VVdQh3

[glepore]

whoah really? maybe it could have been a mix up from when they were prepping your frameset?
dude, can you link us the 3d printed mount you used and how much was that?
and mind if I ask how tall are you and your weight? are you usually racing cause you went with a narrow handlebar but a long stem eh?
By the way the picture you have posted when you have installed the gold decals, the angle looks quite odd? or is it that you need to tell speedy decals the size of the frame so they can scale it properly or due to the gold color that the decal placement looks different?
Lastly I know I will be castigated for this haha but where could we find that carbon 12r or carbon 10r decal that needs to be near the bottom bracket and the one that goes on the fork too?
sorry for so many questions LOL

Not a mix up. Specialized measures oddly, its 36.5 center to center on the actual Rapide cockpit. A smidge over 38 outside to outside. 39 c/c in the drops. I'm only 5'5 (165cm). I'm between a 49 and a 52 if I use specialized calculator. I knew in advance what reach I wanted based on many existing bikes and fits, and wanted the smaller frame (partially for vanity-a fair number of my bikes end up with little exposed seatpost), and I knew what stem I'd need to get the bar center where I wanted. I ride 38 bars and have for a long time. Didn't realize the way the Roval bars are measured but in the end its not a big deal, I'm already adapted to them. I would caution that if you think that's a really agressive fit you might think about the geo of the bike generally as its a pretty racy geo overall. I'd be happier with a  bar with less stem angle (I really like the new enve with rise) but the cockpit is very nice generally. One thing that made a big difference in how the bike feels is to move the levers to a position that has the hood tips pointing slightly up and the transition from the top of the drop to the lever dead flat. Tantan sets them much lower, and that effectively drops the hoods riding position much lower and isn't as comfortable on the hands.
I don't think the decals look strange IRL, I think the angle that I took the photo from (standing rather than kneeling) may make them look that way. Speedy does scale them to the frame size.
I'm also of the less is more school. No FACT decals, no size decal. I did order the UCI sticker seperately.

[glepore]

I also greased it up and put the paste, and no more clicking noise.

Now the funny part.. While I was at it, I wanted to also grease up the saddle clamp parts as per the manual, and when I was putting it back together, I managed to cross-thread the saddle clamp bolt and strip the thread from that little nut that the bolt scrwes into. Until I get a replacement from tantan or manage to find the original part locally, I'm not riding the bike for a while by the looks of it..   

Not sure where you are, but ti parts has the barrel nut for 8 bucks, better bolts has the whole assembly for 15, and the oem wedge is available from any specialized dealer or online retailer (30 usd, or 20 for an ali clone).

[dovh]

Not sure where you are, but ti parts has the barrel nut for 8 bucks, better bolts has the whole assembly for 15, and the oem wedge is available from any specialized dealer or online retailer (30 usd, or 20 for an ali clone).

I'm in the EU(Czech Republic), so the shipping here would take some time, I guess. Btw, do you mean this part?

To clarify, I snapped this part that is circled on the manual screenshot.

[Bonus79]

Look more closely at the photo in the prom dress post, they're on.
They're tedious but not really "hard" to do. Get a squegee thing for vinyl application-amazon and elsewhere. The 2 issues with application are alignment-you don't want it to stick until its where you want it, and then the upper film removal-you have to go slow at a sharp 180 to the decal or it wants to lift the more delicate edges. If you see it start to come up, immediately go back down and over with the squegee. Follow the included instructions.
I didn't do all of the specialized logos, think its too much, just the sworks on the downtube. I did put the "specialized" for the chainstay on the inside of the fork legs for a custom look.
I'm aiming for 6.8 or 9. Not a lot of room to go. The expander was installed and I hear they're a faff to remove, so I'll leave it, rather than go extralight. The tires are tlr, but I like corsa controls in the og flavor and non tlr are getting a bit difficult to find. Already on tpu. Light Ryet saddle. Have chaser thru axles but its only 20g lighter than the clone Spec axles that come with the bike. Crankset could save 100g or so but at several hundred dollars as I'd need a different pm. I'll chip away over time.

Once the dacal is applied to the frame, can you feel the thickness by running your fingers over it?
I will also buy a set of stickers from SpeedyDecal, and I am undecided whether to apply them under transparent (I also have to paint the frame) or over transparent.
I was also wondering if the stickers are resistant to washing and weather conditions....do you already have experience with the durability of SpeedyDecal stickers?
Thanks

[Bonus79]

Reporting back. Greased the surfaces of the wedge where they interface, carbon paste on side that rests against tt, creak gone.
Also my lockring wasn't hella tight.

What kind of grease did you use and where exactly did you apply it?
Thanks

[Bonus79]

The purple decals are mine I’m having Matt Purple logos on my Gloss UD Carbon frame. Not keen on the Specilaized on the forks and chainstay I’m a less is more guy. My SL8 was repainted this year and I did not have them put back on.

The other decals are from Speedydecals site.

https://speedydecal.com/index.php?controller=search&s=SL8

But if your in the UK I know a Specilaized approved painter you can get decals from I would have ordered from them had I known before I ordered these decals. (Ooey Custom Paint)

Matt Purple Metallic?

[Sovi]

Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike

[Sander2177]

Matt Purple Metallic?

No Just Matt Purple
Think it will contrast well over a gloss frame

[Sander2177]

Hello everyone,

i'm reasonably certain that I will order the frame.

I had some questions for TanTan (via the Seraph-website) beforehand which were answered by Rose.

1) maybe also for you guys information:
I asked for the maximum weight limit. The answer is 130 kg (not specified wether its system- or riderweight, but even assuming systemweight thats more than enough for me).

2) I asked what a few extra spacers would cost. Answer for that is 50 USD for 3 spacers (5+10+10 mm).
I find that a bit ... steep tbh. Dont even know if I really need them, just want to be on the safe side here.
Aliexpress does have some SL8 spacers that are at least a bit cheaper.
Does anyone know wether or not they fit? And does anyone have a recommendation?

3) shipping to europe: 150 USD via DPD - ETA 15-30 days.

I would probably also order the Garmin Mount from Seraph, for that price a no brainer I would think.

Thats would be the frame sorted ... I will still have do decide the:
- bottom bracket (or well .. whats there to decide? ... its just a bottom bracket)
- group set (probably Ultegra DI2, but I am considering a Magene P505 as crank+powermeter ... alternatively assioma favero)
- wheels (absolutely no clue yet)
...
anything else I forgot?
Feel free to give me tips and recommendations, I honestly have little clue what I am doing here as it would be my first self-built bike

For my build I am using a DFS Carbon Crank which looks identical to my Cybrei crank on my gen SL8 running a 24mm Titanium axle instead of DUB 29mm only because I already have a bottom bracket spare. Running with XCADEY Power Meter and passquest 53-39T  chainring. Same PM as other crank
All was about $500usd.

Other consideration.
Saddle I have a Ryet saddle from Aliexpress
Brake discs I have a couple of sets but may sell
them on as I run Galfer Wave.
Wanting to see without spending a shed load what weight it comes in at.

[glepore]

I'm in the EU(Czech Republic), so the shipping here would take some time, I guess. Btw, do you mean this part?

To clarify, I snapped this part that is circled on the manual screenshot.

My bad. I was thinking wedge clamp barrel, which is where my creak was. Your part is here:https://www.performancebike.com/specialized-alpinist-upper-lower-seat-clamps-black-w-hardware-kit-s204900004/p1269982?gad_source=4&gbraid=0AAAAAC1tmAvmXujKe6TsjXkigO-Qb7VOj&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_JzABhC2ARIsAPe3ynrqfuNXMEo72iD9B4JR5Wa3kr5nMPI2KyfFilBaL-x0uQ8loqnQIYkaArVGEALw_wcB

[glepore]

What kind of grease did you use and where exactly did you apply it?
Thanks

Generic (Finish Line) bike grease on the two faces of the aluminum wedge that face each other, Park carbon paste on the seatmast and the side of the wedge that rests against the toptube.

[glepore]

Once the dacal is applied to the frame, can you feel the thickness by running your fingers over it?
I will also buy a set of stickers from SpeedyDecal, and I am undecided whether to apply them under transparent (I also have to paint the frame) or over transparent.
I was also wondering if the stickers are resistant to washing and weather conditions....do you already have experience with the durability of SpeedyDecal stickers?
Thanks

They're reasonably durable cut vinyl. IRRC you can order them in a thin thickness for under clear or a more robust vinyl for over clear. Mine are over clear. I've used them on other builds with success, both ways.