Author Topic: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame  (Read 1018 times)

jeffrey

Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« on: March 22, 2025, 06:46:31 AM »
Anyone has any info/experience with this frame?

http://www.hongfu-bikes.com/products/76.html

Great looks, 32 mm max, relaxed geometry (590 stack, 378 reach in L), UDH, FSA 55R headset - small downside is BB86 bottom bracket


Also, what's the general feeling with the brand?




rasch

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2025, 06:48:37 AM »
I've been in touch with them. Problem for me and my clients has been the price. When you add all the bits and bytes it goes above 1k

They produce good quality stuff though

jeffrey

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2025, 11:51:48 AM »
Yes it's not cheap, but from the quotes I got the closest competitor looks to be the Carbonda 1136 that's even more expensive

rasch

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2025, 12:11:46 PM »
Yes it's not cheap, but from the quotes I got the closest competitor looks to be the Carbonda 1136 that's even more expensive

It's more or less at the same price.

At that amount I sell western bikes :) Brand sells and riding a Merida Scultura 5000 with 105 di2 and Elite Carbon wheels for 2.4K/2.5 sells way more than a non-brand china build with di2 and carbon wheels for the same price or more.

There is a seller here in the forum pietro or similar who was going to create an endurance frame but price seemed to be even higher.

If you want my two cents, and what I build most, get a velobuild 066 or a Tantan FM202/og-evkin etc. Still endurance, nice a bit more traditional design but trustworthy.

I was dared by a client to build the most budget friendly carbon 10/11speed hydraulic disc brake xD. I'm gonna try to do it under 1K

Rebel_Yell

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2025, 12:40:42 PM »
It's more or less at the same price.

At that amount I sell western bikes :) Brand sells and riding a Merida Scultura 5000 with 105 di2 and Elite Carbon wheels for 2.4K/2.5 sells way more than a non-brand china build with di2 and carbon wheels for the same price or more.

There is a seller here in the forum pietro or similar who was going to create an endurance frame but price seemed to be even higher.

If you want my two cents, and what I build most, get a velobuild 066 or a Tantan FM202/og-evkin etc. Still endurance, nice a bit more traditional design but trustworthy.

I was dared by a client to build the most budget friendly carbon 10/11speed hydraulic disc brake xD. I'm gonna try to do it under 1K

Keep us updated on that build. Do you know what frame you are starting with?

Serge_K

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2025, 02:31:37 PM »
All road, but only 32C? No t47? That sounds dated.
Expensive, but no weight info ?
The T800/T1000 without weight could be 99.9pc t800 and a stamp size piece of t1000.
The fork looks very non aerodynamic.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

rockerplates.de

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2025, 01:44:22 AM »
quality wise , hong fu is very reliable.
the have a little higher price tags and usually do not like to mess with single buys..

dolph

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2025, 03:04:19 PM »
All road, but only 32C? No t47? That sounds dated.
Expensive, but no weight info ?
The T800/T1000 without weight could be 99.9pc t800 and a stamp size piece of t1000.
The fork looks very non aerodynamic.

Bb86 is better than t47 if done right, does your car use threaded or pressfit bearings?

rasch

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2025, 03:16:09 PM »
Keep us updated on that build. Do you know what frame you are starting with?

Yeap!

Ordered already all the parts (I think). I'll disclose everything in a post as soon as I receive and analyse the quality of the different parts. But I can say already that if everything goes well I managed to be under 1k (pedals not included but could)

rasch

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2025, 03:29:08 PM »
All road, but only 32C? No t47? That sounds dated.
Expensive, but no weight info ?
The T800/T1000 without weight could be 99.9pc t800 and a stamp size piece of t1000.
The fork looks very non aerodynamic.

I agree that all road is actually a bit tricky with this tyre width, whatever all road actually means, because it is what? Sth in the middle of road and gravel?

This looks like a solid endurance frame. No fancy design, no quirks etc.

Bottom bracket is neither good nor bad. As long as it's round all over, it's all the same - though I also have a preference for t47. But thst doesn't make a frame good nor bad.

As regards carbon t800 t1000 or whatever, again, a well designed and constructed frame is better than any hype around that. This is not a frame for the tour de France. It's a frame for normal people.

If it wasn't for the price, I'd have sold already 10 of these this year.

jeffrey

Re: Hong-Fu Fm238 endurance-ish frame
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2025, 05:43:04 PM »
They sent me the drawing of the frame where they have a 35 mm tire and the clearance on each side is slightly over 5 mm, both on the lower and upper rear triangle.
No drawing of the fork though.