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Midwest-MTBer

CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« on: June 07, 2016, 08:10:30 PM »
Hello,

It's been a few years since I joined the forums, but I finally have enough financial stability (thanks college) to begin a Chiner build! I've never really completely built a bike from scratch before, so I'm looking for resources and part lists that I can steal ideas and components that I need. I'm thinking in general of building a CS-036 with SRAM XX 2x10 and carbon rims. I want an upgrade from the titanium behemoth I'm riding now. So... If you guys could point me to some threads that would help me out and just in general put up with my first timer questions that would be great!

- Midwest



Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2016, 10:25:33 AM »
There are several posts from other members who have built a CS/IP-036, the SEARCH function works well on Chinertown.  Here is my build thread:  http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4.msg22.html#msg22

I've made it a Sticky Thread in the forum so it's easy for others to find.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2016, 10:27:47 AM by Carbon_Dude »
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karstenhorn

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2016, 11:10:31 AM »
Here is my build thread for my 036:

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,829.0.html

Here is a thread to issues with issues regarding the linkage in the chainstay on the 036 frame - We are at least 2 that have seen the issue:

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,906.0.html

Karsten

Midwest-MTBer

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 10:29:45 PM »
Thanks guys. I really appreciate the links! I'll be sure to check around thoroughly for more stuff.

Midwest-MTBer

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016, 10:32:45 PM »
So I've done my homework on this frame and I'm starting to pick up components. I'm trying to figure out if I'll have enough room in the cable housings to run the following:
Remote rear lockout
Dropper seat post
Rear derailleur
Front derailleur

Any opinions?

kaiser

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2016, 06:30:49 AM »
You can run 3 cables internally, exiting for the rear shock, forward and rear derailer. If you are keen (and Id assume voids warranty) drill a hole in the exit point of the inner routing tube that exits near the top of the crank then you could run a stealth seat dropper. A big call though. Otherwise you will need to run the seat dropper post table externally all the way.

Jump over to here for a good discussion on what you can do http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/dual-suspension-chinese-carbon-29er-737952-66.html

If you are going to buy the frame from Peter, buy the carbon rims with the Novatec hubs as well. The rims have been great so far. 


Midwest-MTBer

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2016, 08:02:13 PM »
You can run 3 cables internally, exiting for the rear shock, forward and rear derailer. If you are keen (and Id assume voids warranty) drill a hole in the exit point of the inner routing tube that exits near the top of the crank then you could run a stealth seat dropper. A big call though. Otherwise you will need to run the seat dropper post table externally all the way.

Jump over to here for a good discussion on what you can do http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/dual-suspension-chinese-carbon-29er-737952-66.html

If you are going to buy the frame from Peter, buy the carbon rims with the Novatec hubs as well. The rims have been great so far.

Thanks kaiser. I think I might just save a few bucks and get an externally running dropper seatpost as well.  In terms of the wheels, I was thinking of going with the DT Swiss 350 hubs. Do you see any advantage that the Novatec hubs might have?

Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016, 08:45:26 PM »
It's hard to go wrong with DT Swiss hubs, although I'm sure the Novatec hubs would also be decent and a bit cheaper.  I'm must a fanboy of the DT Swiss star ratchet design.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Midwest-MTBer

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 07:56:52 PM »
Thanks Carbon_Dude. I think I'm gonna stick with the DT Swiss hubs. Does anyone have any opinions on the best methods to control a rear Fox CTD shock and a front Fox CTD fork at the same time? I know there have been a few builds with different methods, but I'm having a hard time finding any hardware other than a cable splitter that you basically run to one remote.

Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2016, 05:49:23 AM »
For controlling the shocks, I use a Scott Twin-Loc lever, cost was $60 from the LBS.  I tried the Fox lever and splitter and found their solution terrible.

2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Midwest-MTBer

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 09:09:08 PM »
Thanks Carbon Dude, I was able to chat with my LBS and get a estimate on the price to get one in. I think I'll hold off for now, but I'm pretty convinced it's a worthy upgrade.

Another sort of odd question, but I'm ordering a NECO headset from Peter along with my frame. Does this headset include bearings, race etc.?


Carbon_Dude

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 09:46:13 PM »
The Neco from Peter is a complete headset, everything you need including the crown race, lower bearing, upper bearing, inner bearing spacer, a couple thin shims, the cap with expansion nut, and a little plastic plug for the hex bolt.  No problems with the two that I've gotten from Peter for the two different frames.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Midwest-MTBer

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2016, 09:50:27 PM »
Thanks Carbon Dude. Out of curiosity did you by a wheel set from Peter? He's given me the option to buy rims without having spoke holes (eliminating the need for rim tape) and I'm wondering how you would install a valve stem...

exzos

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2016, 10:55:09 PM »
Thanks Carbon Dude. Out of curiosity did you by a wheel set from Peter? He's given me the option to buy rims without having spoke holes (eliminating the need for rim tape) and I'm wondering how you would install a valve stem...
You will still have a hole for that :)

carbonazza

Re: CS-036 Build Resources and other tips?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 03:31:59 AM »
I ordered the same rims from Peter, just to try to be tubeless tapeless :)