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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: Today at 08:41:49 AM »
Quote from: dinorello on Today at 07:55:55 AM
I don't know about it working perfectly without that stabilizing screw.  The screw keeps the derailleur aligned for more consistent shifting for longer without it rubbing

Now I glued the little metal plate from Shimano like this.
I don't think it will hold very long time, but the feature of the screw kinda works  ;D

There would be also the possibility to glue (2k) a little metal plate onto the hanger. But I don't know if that is necessary.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: Today at 05:10:43 AM »
Quote from: rasch on Today at 05:04:33 AM
Looking great. Almost done in 1 day... impressive!

You could have used some dampner on the cables to avoid that rubbing sound. Not sure you are a weight weenie ahah Some ppl end up not putting it because of the 30g extra  ;D

As regards indexation I don't think you'll have a major problem with it. Keep us updated and show us the final result on the road too eheh

Thank you  :)

I used some kind of rubber sleeve specific for anti rattle on each cable. It is more that you can hear/feel the movement inside when turning the handlebar. It's not a problem as it will not be noticable while riding I guess.

The wheel set should be delivered tomorrow according to DHL.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: Today at 04:49:51 AM »
Quote from: rasch on Today at 03:52:40 AM
Yeap! I completely agree. It's like driving an automatic gears car. Notwithstanding the manual still has its advantages, and at the moment comparing a full 105 hydraulic to a di2 is double the price 500vs1000.

I'll be using an old 105 given by a client in this frame. LC advertises it as allowing 4 cables so I'm not expecting it can't handle mechanical shifting. That screw is adding additional support which is always great, not crucial, but great. Replacing the hanger is a solution, yet let's see. Looking forward for PaxiH feedback


Unfortunately I can't post anything yesterday. Seems like the Website has some problems. I still can't post pictures for some reason.

I was wrong about the hanger. It isn't screwed. It looks like 2.5mm hex but it is riveted.

Wendy did reply to me and tried to help we're she can. I really appreciate that. But she told me that there is only this hanger version. So I guess I have to go without the stabilizing screw and try to index it somehow. As I'm reading in other forum it is also like that to e.g. Basso frames.

In terms of internal cable routing, I finished that yesterday. With the right tools it was possible but not fun at all  ;D

I don't know if it is normal but when I turn the handlebar, there is a hearable rubbing of the cables in the headset area. Should be normal I guess, because the cables need to move somehow when the handlebar is turned. It's my first internally routed frame.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 22, 2024, 04:16:09 PM »
Quote from: SeniorBob4321 on May 22, 2024, 03:50:56 PM
After reading the 32 pages of this topic and I am really considering buying this frame ! How much was for the frame, no custom paint and shipping to EU ? No price on their website, why ?

I did post an overview of my offer earlier. There you can find the prices.
Other than that you can Mail with Wendy from LC. She responds normally pretty quickly.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 22, 2024, 04:12:57 PM »
Quote from: Ar26 on May 22, 2024, 03:43:44 PM
The di2 Ultegra touchs the frame plate for me

Can you send a picture please?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 22, 2024, 04:09:38 PM »
Quote from: rasch on May 22, 2024, 03:41:24 PM
OK! I see what you mean now. The seat post is quite thin and the derailleur hanger is "short" so you have nothing to push the screw against.

The hanger is fixed by 4 screws. So if they could provide a different hanger it could work.

I'll definitely give updates when I know something new.
So far I can't go on with the build. That sucks.
If I have to go with electronic shifting, the build will be mich more expensive than planned. And I also really like mechanical shifting.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 22, 2024, 02:39:05 PM »
Quote from: rasch on May 22, 2024, 01:40:08 PM
Did you check this? https://youtu.be/-3_EU4cccW4?si=kVnZBu-cqcQ25UdS

Yes, I know this video witch is very good.
But according to the video, the support- or stabilizing screw has to touch the frame or hanger to make Indexing possible.

I wrote an mail to Wendy from LC and hope she has a solution.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 22, 2024, 01:24:03 PM »
Quote from: rasch on May 22, 2024, 01:09:52 PM
But isn't that the 'tension' screw? That is not the one attaching the derailleur to the frame if I'm not mistaken

It is the support screw that should sit against the frame or hanger. But in case of the delivered hanger it's not touching anything. So I guess I ether got the wrong hanger or LC is wrong by saying this Frame will work with mechanical shifting.

I think I got a problem. If nobody has a solution I will contact Wendy tomorrow.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 22, 2024, 12:19:31 PM »
I just received my Frameset today. So far it looks good.

But I think there is one big problem. The front derailleur mount seems to small, so that the bolt from the front derailleur do not touch anything. I also can't glue the Shimano metal sticker.

Anyone have an idea what I should do now?
Did I do something wrong or is that a problem from the hanger?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 20, 2024, 03:15:32 AM »
Quote from: c74 on April 27, 2024, 06:26:18 AM
Tracking, naah, not until the last 36hrs of the delivery. Tracking page said parcel was registered but not yet recieved, then the last stages in Europe it was all good. The parcel took 20 days to get to Stockholm / me after registration with the carrier (DHL).

I know this post is a little bit older.
Can you tell me if 20 days was the complete delivery time from China or only after arriving in Europe?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 19, 2024, 01:58:14 PM »
Quote from: c74 on May 19, 2024, 05:32:52 AM
Hambini did a review of a Lightcarbon gravel frame, up on YT. I'm to stupid to get a URL working in this forum, so you have to find it yourself.
Well worth a look get a feel for LightCarbons QC/QA and engineering principles.

Yes, I've already seen it. Even before buying  :)
Maybe someone can send him the LCR017 Frame  ;D

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 16, 2024, 12:50:40 PM »
Quote from: rasch on May 15, 2024, 08:47:22 AM
For me that's actually what is more valuable in these forums. Analysing the different reasoning and mental model different people use to select frames/bikes/products. Question them and take my conclusions and decisions.
Thanks for sharing your inputs

It's the same for me. From others experiences and opinions I can maybe learn or think from an different angle on the topic.
So I thing discussions are a good thing  :)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 15, 2024, 08:31:45 AM »
Quote from: Ar26 on May 15, 2024, 04:05:21 AM
Absolutely agree with you. I am not an engineer, nor a specialist in aerodynamics. LC should send the frame to Hambini for review (ah! ah!)

I'd love to see Hambini reaming it  ;D

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 15, 2024, 07:37:16 AM »
Quote from: Serge_K on May 15, 2024, 05:05:17 AM
we know for a fact that rider & clothing matter more than the bike itself, it's about 80% rider and 20% bike, afaik.
That being said, a bus shaped tube is a bus shaped tube. Even without a wind tunnel, we know that tear drop / kamm tail shaped things are more aero than round things, or boxes... And we know that buses aren't aero. You wont find an aero frame with a wide, boxy shape like that, nor will you find a frame that touts its aero prowess with a boxy shape like that - until proven otherwise, ofc. Given it's an ultra light frame, and making frames of that weight at this price point is a new phenomenon, and that LC doesn't make any aero claims, i think it's safe to assume it's not aero. Whether it matters or not is subjective. But even if it "only" costs 5W at 45kmh, i try to spend my money diligently, and given how incredibly hard it is for me to raise my ftp by 5W, if i'm going to buy a frame, and if i can, i'm going to avoid buying one that screams "i'm a bus". It's a guesstimate. It's also an aesthetics consideration, as i dont find that boxy shape appealing.

I agree with you with the aesthetics of the downtube. It would look better and make more sense in a different (teardrop like) shape.
In terms of stiffness it maybe makes sense. I'm also no engineer in this area, so I'm only guessing.

Other than that, I like the design and geometrie of the frame.

For me I doesn't matter if I'll loose like 5W at 45km/h. I'm far from being a professional and I do not race.

That and other reason made me order this Frameset. I'll see how happy I am with it after it gets delivered and the build is done  ;D


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« on: May 15, 2024, 03:49:47 AM »
Quote from: Ar26 on May 13, 2024, 11:23:26 AM
You will drive at more than 40km/h with this frame without any problem and maintain this speed. Concerning the wall, I confirm the thinness under the pressure of the hand. It reminds me of my Hyper wheels (Winspace), very thin too.

While I don't really understand the squared design of the downtube, I can not imagine that an average rider would feel any difference. Especially because I guess the front wheel will make the bigger difference in that area and It should kinda shield parts of the downtube from the air flow.

I think the rider position, clothing, ... will make the biggest difference in aerodynamics.




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