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Yet another problem with my er9. So, 2 RD died for no reason, that's being sorted.
But last night I put the er9 on my road bike to charge ahead of a mountain ride today. Battery was over 70pc when I put it to charge, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't run out. In the morning, I start the ride, two bars as per be Garmin unit. And it wasn't a fluke. I did the whole ride trying not to shift and the battery died at the very end of the ride.
I plugged it in the wall. It was blinking green. It's not exactly the first time I handle the stuff.
So wtf happened this time? How is charging overnight actually draining the battery? Like wtf?
I am losing patience here. I really want that stuff to work, but man... This is really testing my patience, I feel like I should be getting paid to ride that stuff and debug it.

Oh man! At this point, you should get honorary membership for their QA team.

On my last ride, I also seemed to have sudden shift when hitting small potholes. I thought it was one time thing, but then it happened quite a few more times. This was on my second eR9 set. I will keep monitoring this and raise concerns it keeps happening.

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https://youtu.be/HUxLUQI2-Us?si=vFeF6ydXi8e9R4er&t=671

New ERX will have USB C charging on the FD.
They didn't have to do it, but how nice of them. As a right to repair enthusiast L-Twoo is scoring very high for me between the full gear trim and speed selection, user replaceable battery and now this

Ah! I posted my comment only a few moment after you did. Yeah! It's very nice of them. I am now eagerly waiting for the much improved eRX.

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Joe from China Cycling at Shanghai bike show just showed the newly updated (again) Blue edition of eRX will come with USB-C charging port on the front derailleur. That is just awesome! L-Twoo clearly thinks of the ease of use for end users. Pretty exciting, to be honest.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 04, 2024, 11:41:06 AM »
Preorder is now available on Panda podium, $1880 USD for the standard version and $2380 USD for the ultralight version... Pretty expensive..

That is indeed a little more expensive than the other chinese frames, but still in line with that the other chinese premium brands are offering. Elilee and Seka are also offering two versions of their frames at around same price(s), but at least you get handlebar included in the price for Elilee. In that regard, Elilee offers slightly better value. I already had my Elilee for quite some time now and have been enjoying it so much, but the new Tavelo Arow and SEKA Spear intrigue me.

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I just noticed that Pandapodium put up this comment on their eRX listing

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The “Blue Edition” won’t be available til the second half of 2024. The eRX we selling currently are still the all black version but with the previous issues solved.

It looks like plenty of people are asking this question already to them.

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I receive lots of items with C2032 batteries. Maybe they accidentally packed a mineral oil container into your package? Anyways, I'd be annoyed that my package was returned. On the bright side, the blue edition ER9/X should be available on the next AliEx sale, so you can order the new & improved version instead!  ;)

It was indeed odd. My second eR9 came with CR2032 already installed too, but it was from 80 Designer Store.
Getting the new blue edition was also my thought process. I was planning to put the additional eR9 on my old road/commuter bike anyway. I somehow developed a new habit of pressing the shift button with my pinky finger after riding so much on the eR9, so the new button layout on the blue addition will be awesome!
Anyone got news when they will start selling the new edition?

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My ER9 shipped immediately but hit a snag. The package has been returned back to sender. I have never seen this happening before and I order a LOT. Bad news?

Did you buy the eR9 from LTWOO Official Store and you're in the US? I had this issue twice and ended up not getting the eR9 (my third). I was told it was because restricted item (battery), even though I ordered one without battery, so customs don't allow for shipment. It's a bummer. I was recommended to buy from other sellers to avoid this issue. It's kind of odd, since my first eR9 was from this store, though it was before they became AE Choice seller. Being shipped by Choice may have something to do with it.

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finally pulled the trigger yesterday. 330€ without maybe customs was too temting. Has anyone replaced the breakpads by now and can say, if there is a shimano alternertive? and if yes which model does fit?

I paired my eR9 with ZRace XG caliper and Cooma Elite pads (the pink ones). I am just impressed with the Cooma pads. For the price, it has no business being so good and I have used all different kinds of Shimano pads before. I can comfortably say they are almost as good as Shimano's. Please note that I weight somewhere between 68-70kg, depending on the days, so that may change the results. Also impressed with the very minimal disc squealing noise.

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If you value reliability over ANYTHING, then buy Shimano.
YouTubers often receive early units and they serve as beta testers. Bad strategy? These YouTubers had the battery with tabs and not springs, which caused most of the concerns.
Your concern over shilling is also warranted. Anybody who has a discount code on anything has an interest in you spending more, mathematically. And so if you don't see a discount code on l-twoo, they don't stand to benefit, which is worse. If they don't make money from it but then users report problems, then they just shit themselves in the foot twice.
I'm very happy with my 5 er9, but I kind of want them to fail to see what happens. I enjoy the tinkering and the grind of making my own bike infinitely more than buying off the shelf pre packaged branded stuff. Shimano for me is a patent troll and SRAM is the worst assemble of engineers in recent bike history, so I will get out of my way to try alternatives.
I still use a Shimano group on an old bike. That stuff will never die. You probably should buy Shimano if your key concern is reliability. L-twoo electric groups didn't exist a year ago. Nobody can tell you how they age long term. They may age like fine wine, they may age like Lindsay Lohan. Do you want modern day Lindsay Lohan on your bike?

I have to agree with many of these. I am now already >5000km on my first eR9. I have to admit, almost half of which are indoor Zwift rides (don't blame me, I am a fair-weather rider and don't like to be miserable on the bike during winter). I got another set for my wife's bike. These days, with discount codes, you can almost buy two eR9s for a price of Shimano 105 Di2. That is just a no brainer for me when I want to maintain more than two bikes. It's also convenient to have "spare" parts on one bike if/when anything goes wrong on the other. Some stores on AE are now listing individual parts already.
I am actually thinking of getting another set for my commuter bike. Still trying to figure out if I should get eGR or eR9. I want to run 2x on eGR, but not sure if that works. I'd imagine if the firmware allows, it should be straightforward since everything else is identical. I do have an extra front derailleur to use, so that would be great.
I am hoping my eR9s would age like Lindsay Lohan on fine wine diet.

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Does anyone know if we can pair eGR with the front derailleur from eR9/eRX? I'd like to have 2x chainring at the front with eGR rear derailleur. The eGR shifter almost looks exactly the same as the new eRX shifter, with larger buttons.

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where are you getting the er9 for $380?

It was a few months ago when AliExpress and 80 Designer Store both had coupon discounts. It was too tempting to miss, so I decided to buy the set for another bike I plan to build for my wife. Nowadays, you can find eR9 for ~ $400 during discount days, which happens quite frequently it seems. Early this month, it was selling for $400.

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Wait, whaaaat? I got to try this. I was thinking of maybe carrying a small battery pack, but if the phone can charge it, then F*** yeah Matt Damon!
Thank you!

Yep! Worked for me the other day. You probably want to make sure you enable USB OTG setting in whatever phone you are using. Though I bet most phones these days come with OTG enabled by default.

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This is genius.  I went out without charging the groupset after a few months off the bike, and it was fine for the first 40km until the cafe, close to the cafe the FD and RD were getting slow on shifting (FD wouldnt shift the whole way, RD would take 2-3 presses to react), I set the gears to a manageable gear and then everything died on the way back.  Would've saved me if I did this.

I did see that I had 4% battery life left before I left so it was my fault.

Honestly, this is some of the few small things that keeps me from going away from eR9/eRX. For comparison, Shimano's charging cable is bulkier and probably takes much more space in my saddle bag if I want to do the same strategy.

All the flexibility that comes with LTWOO are so user friendly, from the variable 10-12 speed, user replaceable battery, individual gear indexing, air vent for bleeding, great app for on-the-fly adjustments. I know Shimano/SRAM may already have most, if not all of these, but considering I can get eR9 for a fraction of the price (they are now even much cheaper compared to launch price and I got my second eR9 for $380 after tax), I am now a happy user. I am hoping the second and third generation of eR9/eRX would solve all the issues users are currently having. By then, I would not hesitate to recommend the groupset to others.

It's actually somewhat impressive that they managed to do all these in their first generation product, while avoiding all the patent minefield left by Shimano/SRAM.

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USA Seka (non RDC) owner here. I had a warranty issue and it was processed pretty well all things considered—I can vouch for the after sales service. Fantastic frame, it’s been very nice. If you can get a hold of one at a decent price I’d say it’s worth it. I think the Tavelo is pretty much the same spec frame though, I’d also consider that one in today’s market.

How did you manage to get the frame in the US? Was it from Cycling100 before they went out of business?

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Because i'm intellectually challenged, i went for a ride and the battery of the er9 died on me. Folks, don't forget to charge your group regularly, please be smarter than me :)
I am not using the original l-twoo batteries because of problems with shipping lithium internationally, so i bought what i found, and the capacity of the cells i found is SHIT. Therefore, i think i can get 500km autonomy or so. This is, afaik, the lithium's fault, not l-twoo's fault. Charge your group very regularly, it's quick to do, but no juicy, no sexy. Was a flat ride, was ok. In the mountains, it would have sucked hard.

Does anyone know if there's a garmin data field with the battery indicator of the er9/erx group?

It happens to the best of us! I now carry the USB charger cable with a USB C to A converter, so I can quickly top up just enough to get me home/anywhere to stop and charge using only my phone. Both the cable and USB converter are so compact I can easily shove them in my saddle bag.

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