Hello!

No issues with the frame at all, I'm quite happy with it! I would buy from them without hesitation if they have a model that you like. Which road frame are you looking at?
I find errors in assembly are not usually a fault of the frame The build process was as easy as any other frame I've built up, nothing to note and no manufacturing defects. All surfaces were faced also.

Thank you for the reply.

I will build R888-C probarbly. And im glad to hear that you had not any issues

Has anyone heared this company "Ornan" before?

You could ask if she knows of a reseller that has them.  Also the LCR014 frame is very close.  Brakes are under the chainstays but that may be a no MOQ frame.

It is great Idea.  now LCRXS-V, LTK 268-V and SC-R48V(This is not Aero Frame) are in my list.

That is probably the difference, I have already built a Chinese frame a DengFu FM066SL ten years ago.

I am looking for rim brake aero frame to last a few years. So I am looking at the top end, hence Giant Propel SL, Scott Foil RC etc.

An Aeroad would work, but they are rare (and expensive) in Australia.

Prices locally:
2015 Merida Reacto 7000 frame with brakes 300EUR (would like the next model)
Cheap Chinese rim brake aero frame + shipping and taxes 450EUR
2017 Scott Foil frame 600EUR (XL I need M/L)
Velobuild VB-R218  with integrated handlebar + shipping and taxes 660EUR
2017 Giant Propel SL complete bike with Ultegra + training wheels 900EUR (ISP cut 20mm short for me)

On my search I am finding out most people do not ride 10,000+km a year ;-) Most do a lot less and rarely in the rain. I can spot crash damage, so will avoid frames/bikes that have been in crashes (unlike the ones I already own)

Still buying second hand has it risks as does buying a Chinese frame, particularly the cheaper ones.

For me I see more value buying a five year old premium rim braked aero frame that has probably done less than 10,000km than a new frame from China.

Should i ask you,how you can spot crash damage?

I can't tell if it's just paint peeling off or cracks in the carbon.

Do you have any tips when looking at used carbon frames?

That is probably the difference, I have already built a Chinese frame a DengFu FM066SL ten years ago.

I am looking for rim brake aero frame to last a few years. So I am looking at the top end, hence Giant Propel SL, Scott Foil RC etc.

An Aeroad would work, but they are rare (and expensive) in Australia.

Prices locally:
2015 Merida Reacto 7000 frame with brakes 300EUR (would like the next model)
Cheap Chinese rim brake aero frame + shipping and taxes 450EUR
2017 Scott Foil frame 600EUR (XL I need M/L)
Velobuild VB-R218  with integrated handlebar + shipping and taxes 660EUR
2017 Giant Propel SL complete bike with Ultegra + training wheels 900EUR (ISP cut 20mm short for me)

On my search I am finding out most people do not ride 10,000+km a year ;-) Most do a lot less and rarely in the rain. I can spot crash damage, so will avoid frames/bikes that have been in crashes (unlike the ones I already own)

Still buying second hand has it risks as does buying a Chinese frame, particularly the cheaper ones.

For me I see more value buying a five year old premium rim braked aero frame that has probably done less than 10,000km than a new frame from China.

Aww the Prices are cool! When the Prices are here like that, i would like to buy 2. Hand Frame too. We have a difference Situation. It is really unfortunately for me

1. Aero Model - there's a lot that fit this, check out yishun
2. Direct Mount Brake System - yes lots of rim options
3. I want a frame with a direct mount located in sitstay. (Can people who have tried the version in chainstay tell me their experiences?) - chainstay braking is fine it's just that it tends to get full of mud.
4. I want a convenient cable routing because I use mechanical red. Any frame for the most part will be fine.
5. I want the tire clearance to be above 28C. Unlikely - most brake calipers have a max of 28
6.Zero Offset Seatpost possible.

Yes i wrote Yishun too but they didnt reply me

Probably either a Velobuild VBR 218 (Dogma clone) or, if you can find one second hand, the previous generation Merida Reacto (2018-2020).

Pretty sure both fit all criteria except the Velobuild uses fully internal routing, and the Reacto isn't BSA (uses BB386) but it uses routing that's much better for mechanical shifting.

Thank you i will check Reacto too

Hello,

I‘m getting a lot of information here. Thank you very much for that. I'm going to build a rimbreak frame.

But it's really hard to find a frame that meets the conditions I want. That's why I need your help

The conditions I look for for the frame are as follows.

1. Aero Model
2. Direct Mount Brake System
3. I want a frame with a direct mount located in sitstay. (Can people who have tried the version in chainstay tell me their experiences?)
4. I want a convenient cable routing because I use mechanical red.
5. I want the tire clearance to be above 28C.
6.Zero Offset Seatpost possible.

This is an option and it would be perfect if the frame is BSA BB applied.

Thank you in advance!