I placed an order on a 52 cm frame.  Per Alisa, the lead time is around 45 days but they have a few 52 left in stock so it might be able to get shipped out within 30 days (after some custom paint work).

What I paid:

- US$530 for frame, fork & seat post, in black gloss plus one additional color

- US$12 for headset

- US$25 for front and rear axles

- US$6 for spare rear hanger

They offered an integrated cockpit for US$80 but they don't have 380/100, so I will source that elsewhere.

Now I have to source wheels and all the other stuff!  I'm not that handy so I'm going to work with a LBS here in Taipei to get this built up.  I'll try to do a build video and also share some pics. 

I'm very happy with my 268, so i'm looking at this 301, given how similar it looks.
I also compared it to the VB GF 002 (I have one) and to a supersix road and a supersix gravel.

Take-aways:
301 geo v similar to 268, 301 tad more aggressive in stack & reach, but wheelbase is a tad longer. Together, a tie?
301 definitely NOT a gravel bike.
301 very similar to a supersix, except the supersix has a much longer wheelbase (both supersix are gravel territory when it comes to wheelbase, which i find surprising).

I'm wondering how the 301 would fare with 32C front, 34C rear, as a bomb proof bike for the mountains (not freaking out about potholes, post winter dirty roads, old chunkier asphalt, and the occasional dirt segment is appealing to me, even if i don't like the idea of the extra weight from bigger rims & tyres, and higher drag from a big ass fork. There are forest roads i avoid because of road surface, cracks, dirt sections, slope, on my 25mm supersix rim brake w carbon rims. The 301 would steamroll over all of that.

What's your experience with LT as far as their custom painting/decals?  I'm close to pulling the trigger on this frame, and have some ideas for the design but just wondering about how well they will execute.  If their frame painting is crappy, then I'll probably just keep it simple and go black stealth.

And did you go with their cockpit (stem, bars)?  If so, how do you like it?  And if not, do you have any Aliexpress recommendations?

Thx in advance!

That looks to be a gravelframe (top tube screwholes and graveltires)

Yeah it seems more in the spirit of the 3T, Open and similar all road bikes than a pure road bike.  Might be cool especially with 2 wheelsets but honestly maybe not my cuppa tea.

The frame in the video is clearly not the frame in the brochure. Or are they doing like LC and the LCR017-D, with final product different than pictures on website.

What's the real RD301-D looks like?

You are right - I posted the wrong video (it was the 268 frame instead of the 301).  I've removed the video and added 2 photos from Longteng of the real 301 frame which match up what they have in the brochure: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.  Sorry about the mix up.

Here are some updates from my communication with them:

- Quoted price of US$450 for frame, fork, seat post

- They can offer for additional charge: integrated handlebar $80, headset $12, through axle $30/pair, spare rear hanger $6/pcs

- 980g +/-40 for size 52 frame

- Zero offset seat post is not available

- Available 45 days from payment

I've had some discussions with them around custom frame painting:

- US$85 for 3 colors

- They can do custom decals (which will sit underneath the final coat of paint), but for simple stuff, they will make it part of the frame painting instead of doing decal stickers - they prefer to get vector files instead of helping with design

- They can do (or, at least they are wiling to try...) fairly complex paint jobs, unlike other sellers I've talked to - for example, I asked if they can do something like the Bahrain team bike kit from 2023 (https://www.ridemedia.com.au/racing/pro-bikes-2023-bahrain-victorious-and-merida-a-mechanics-perspective/), and they said it should be ok as long as they are provided with detailed sketches/instructions; I'm just relaying what they said and have no idea about the actual end product, although the paint jobs I saw at the Taipei Bike Show looked pretty nice

Again, sorry about posting the wrong video 

New forum member here, and starting a new thread after posting about this in a thread on the LightCarbon LCR017-D (https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4309.255.html).

Long story short: I snuck in to the Taipei Bike Show today to check out some Longteng and LightCarbon frames, and at the Longteng booth, I found out that they have an unreleased frame which is undergoing testing: the RD301-D.  Here is a short video that I took, and a few pages from their brochure with its geometry: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.

Appearance wise, the 301 doesn't break any new ground, but a few things stand out:
- It has an aero profile but is under 1000g weight
- The geometry (especially stack) sort of sits between an upright endurance bike and bikes like the Velobuild 177 and 268, Winspace SLC 2.0 and 1500, Yoeleo R11 - this geometry is a sweet spot for me [edit: the geometry seems comparable to the touted all-arounder Trigon AR01]
- Whoa, max tire clearance of 38!
- Cool little storage space on the downtube
- Threaded T47 BB
- Per their rep Alisa, it's made with a mix of T800 and T1000 carbon

This frame hasn't been posted on their website, and Alisa said it will be released "in a few months" once testing is complete.  The 54cm has passed their tests and is available if anyone is interested - you can email Alisa at longtengalisa@163.com.

Peace out!

[Edited to add reference to the Trigon AR01]

Me too.
I asked Workswell for the 306. But at the moment the interesting SL Version is not available.
Is from 316 and 366 a SL Version available?

From my emails with them, they offered these in size 52:
- 366 at 1130g, US$620 for frame and fork only (seat post is extra but it's standard 27.2)
- 316 light at 950g, US$890 for frame, fork, seat post
- 316 standard at 1100g, I didn't get a price because I wasn't interested in this frame

It just so happens that the Taipei Bike Show is happening this weekend, and I will go check it out.  I know Longteng has a booth, and likely other Chinese OEMs as well.  I'll report back on anything interesting.  (Let me know if anyone has any specific requests or questions in my DMs ... but I won't take requests for Hambini hairdresser pics, sorry....)

Yes same on my side about the LCR017-D. The weight is super interesting but the Geo is a little bit to aggressive.
The R1058-D looks more relaxed but the SL Version is still not available...
Standard is to heavy with 1050g for frame if you want to build a up a bike for events with a lot of climbing and a long time in the saddle.

Anybody other proposals?

New member here - I also have the same dilemma, and will share my thoughts.

First, these are my filters/criteria:
-   I live in a hilly area, so I’d like to have an all-arounder, ideally with frame weight below 1000g
-   Somewhat aero, but I’ll be building up the bike with 40-45mm wheels which will speak more to aero advantages
-   I don’t race anymore but I still do fast group rides, so I’m looking for a frame with somewhat forgiving geometry – not quite upright like the Endurace but also not a crit bike
-   32mm tire clearance
-   Under US$1000 (which rules out Yoeleo, Winspeed, Seka, etc.)

The 017 hits most of these notes, and Lightcarbon also do pretty decent custom frame painting and decals.  But like you guys, I’m a bit hesitant about the long-ish reach.  The stack/reach ratio for a 52cm frame comes to 1.33, which I’ll use as the basis for comparison. 

Some of the others I’ve been looking at include:

Velobuild 177 (https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/2023-vb-r-177-super-light-carbon-fiber-road-frame-disc-version-hidden-cables): this is marketed as an endurance frame, but the geometry is similar to the LC017, with similar reach but  lower stack.  The stack/reach ratio is 1.38, slightly more relaxed than the LC017.  Some of the pluses of the 177 are, for me: T1000 carbon, standard 27.2 seat post, available with both zero and offset seat post, Velobuild does custom painting, the frame is US$500, but … Velobuild seems to be more hit and miss in terms of quality, which worries me because I’m a first time bike builder.

Velobuild 268 (https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/velobuild-2024-vb-r-268-carbon-fiber-aero-road-frame-disc-integrated-cables): geometry is very close to the VB177 and LC017, with a stack/reach ratio of 1.35.  The biggest pluses of the 268 are, for me: it’s a newer frame, so hopefully some of the known issues around the VB168 and VB177 have been addressed.  But, it’s too early to say (anxiously waiting for @patliean1’s review!), I'm not sold on the weird Mavic through axles, and it’s slightly heavier at 1000g.

Workswell 316 (https://www.workswellbikes.com/endurance/wcb-r-316-disc-brake.html): this, too, is marketed as an endurance frame, but again, the geometry is similar to the LC017 and the VB177, with a slightly shorter reach and slightly longer stack.  The stack/reach ratio is 1.38.  The pluses of the 316 are, for me: mix of T800 and T1000 carbon, the light version of the frame is 950g, and I was quoted US$890 for the frame.  On the other hand, Workswell does not do custom painting, and there is less info/reviews for Workswell and specifically for this frame.

Some other frames I’ve looked at include the Longteng 268D (https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/21.html) with 1.40 stack/reach ratio, but slightly over 1000g, and the Longteng 266 (https://www.ltbikes.com/index/products/view/id/211.html) with 1.37 stack/reach ratio - but Longteng has been slow to respond after several attempts to reach them.  And the Workswell 366 (https://www.workswellbikes.com/endurance/wcb-r-366(disc-brake).html), with 1.39 stack/reach ratio, $800, but 1130g, and as mentioned above, Workswell doesn’t do custom painting.

I’m sure you guys have looked at some of these options as well, and maybe like me have thought deep into the night about which frame is the most suitable.  I’m a new member here but really enjoy the community and the spirit of sharing here – would love to hear some thoughts and if there are other options to consider!

[Edited to add LT266]