For the base frame, the going rate seems to be $870USD on sale and just over $1000USD regular price. Definitely compared to the regular price Panda Podium seems to have pretty decent pricing since they include shipping for $1199USD

The Team version though is just over $1200USD so their $1668USD asking price seems comparatively expensive.

That said, looks like a pretty nice frame if you are willing to live with less tire clearance. For weight comparison if the weights are accurate, this Team frame just over 100g heavier than than an S Works Aethos and should be lighter than a regular Aethos. Its designed for internal cable routing too which add a bit of weight. Pretty incredible for the price.

Yeah, I dunno about the PandaPodium pricing ... that's a huge difference.

Is this the new one you're talking about http://www.adapt-bikes.com/Products-detail?product_id=101 ?

Except the head angle i find too steep, 70° or 71 for tall sizes will be a better sweet spot between stability and agility, this bike is more or less the same what a famous US graveler will ride this year https://www.instagram.com/p/C2dIgQcOa0w/

For me the tideace is made for rolling fast, thus you don't want Downcountry'esque seat angle and 140-160 is enough for the intented use.

That bike was launched nearly 2 years ago and it's still not available to anyone except their increasingly large crop of sponsored riders.  In fact beside Tri frames, I don't think any Felt bikes are available anywhere outside North America ...

It was claimed they were reorganizing after they were purchased from Rossignol by Pierer ... but that's, again, almost 2 years ago.

Also that Breed Carbon has the worst cable routing I've ever seen.  Even worse than the Exploro.

Yet another one where the geo doesn't match the tire clearance except in the small sizes.  HTA / STA and FC / WB are garbage in the larger sizes.

I'm assuming it should be possible to swap out for Magura or Shimano calipers?

Hoods and calipers are an unknown quantity, but I doubt Wheeltop will release derailleurs with the kind of problems LTWOO and Sensah have had, if their MTB offering is anything to go by.  Software ... we'll see.

Looks like this frame, although with a different fork: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3739.0.html

Definitely not.  Look at cord length of the head tube.  It's massive on the BR frame.  Also long smooth curve of downtube towards headtube vs angular.

Looking at the photos I was expecting a slacker head angle.  But geo table is saying only 71.5.  It looks like more ... I wonder if it's correct.  IMO it needs more given the length of the TT.

XL also absent.

Tire clearance looks massive, assuming there is sufficient lateral clearance at chain / seat says  and the fork.  Assuming there is, height wise you could probably fit a 52-54 on the rear and a 57 on the front.

Perfect for people who've accidentally cut their chain one link too short!
Side note, there's a ridiculous sale for the ER9 groupset on AliExpress, 600 AUD!

Probably because they're about to start selling stock of a significantly revised version ...

fake G8 insoles

i havent tried authentic g8 insoles but these are cheap as chips and work well for me. ive been using them for over a year

The real ones cost over $100 iirc

plenty of youtube videos teaching about the benefits and how to use them

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805604633625.html?channel=facebook&fbclid=IwAR39Kd1LtDdXYhtfLicUDkvbcLqwPc6I8EZEDhP2lRlnqxNvuhlzFylLfmU

I haven't ridden them but I've handled genuine G8s.  They're very cheaply made and ridiculously priced ... I don't know whether the ones you have are a full on replica, but it wouldn't be difficult to do.  IMO they're the kind of thing all premium shoes should come with, but don't - but they're way too pricey for an aftermarket offering given the pretty low quality.

For anyone wanting a higher quality full carbon insole with good arch and heel support, I'd recommend Winsole.  Though if you're using super narrow shoes, they probably won't work.