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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Scott Foil replica
« on: May 24, 2023, 06:52:11 AM »
Usually, replica frames are not made in the same mould and have some details that differ to the real deal. For instance SL7 has a different design where chainstay and seatstay meet, front derailleur mount is different and of course, the paintjobs are not 1:1 the same. The difference under the paintjob, we don't even have to start...
In general, they look very similar and most will not recognize it but experts can identify immediately.

This beast here looks absolutely identical to the OEM Foil. And I mean every single detail including the paintjob. I have a hard time believing that they show the fake one here. I suspect they made some pictures when they had the original Foil frame to reverse engineer it for the replica moulds.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: February 01, 2023, 04:55:48 AM »
Best to check with Justin from Speeder about the headset to be sure.
Also, the cable exits below the bottom bracket don’t really make sense for anything else besides shifting cables if i look at their diameter.
What else would you route below the BB apart from shifting cables?

Have fun building up this frame  :)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: January 24, 2023, 01:50:54 AM »
The brakes mounts were faced after they clearcoated the frame. But it looks as if they added the slightest amount of black paint. Don't know the reason behind it. I have a facing tool from Park Tool and I will clean the mounts. I'll make some pictures this evening to show how it looks.
Below the BB, there are guides for mechanical shifting. There are no cable routes for the rear brake hose but this is also not necessary IMHO. And yes, frame is for sale, I can ship worldwide.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: January 23, 2023, 12:11:59 PM »
Here are some pics. It's a nice frame. And since made with EPS, there is no wrinkling and bladder remaining in the frame. Frame weight is including 4 bottle cage bolts and both derailleur hangers (ca. 40g plus ca. 20-30g for clearcoat). Bare frame without paint will be around 810-820g.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: January 23, 2023, 05:06:41 AM »
My frame was shipped last week (UPS) and is currently out for delivery. I expect it to arrive this evening. I'll do some pictures, weigh all the parts and put back everything in the box again. If someone is interested in it (size 490), let me know.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: January 16, 2023, 06:07:54 AM »
Why is that?
I ordered another frameset (Elilee Blize) in the meantime so I'm probably not going to need the SC-R48D.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: January 16, 2023, 02:09:59 AM »
My frameset is ready to be shipped. Let's see how long it takes until it arrives.
It's a size 490 in carbon gloss, not sure if I'll build it up though. But I'll make pictures of the frameset and what came with it.

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I use this one in size 360 since it is the smallest I could find and I needed the central hole in the clamping area as well

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004517090262.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.29.4d4f5c5ffSkaZn&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

Weighs 221g and the quality is fine. I also use one for CX.

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Since both frames are paintless, the 100g difference shows the inconsistencies that you can get. I verified the weight with a second scale BTW and I would definitely prefer the heavier frame that you have. I will try to upload the images today or tomorrow.

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I received such a frame from a friend of mine. One of the aluminium BB inserts de-bonded from the frame and since he wasn't too happy about the stiffness of the frame either, he decided not to use it anymore. I could do whatever I wanted with it (I build and repair carbon parts on an amateur level). So I cut it in half.

I will post some pictures later, but a few comments first:
The frame was incredibly light, 728g for a size 54 to be exact (no typo). Since I highly doubt that HM fibers are used in such a frame, I suspect that they simply reduced the amount of stiffness layers to achieve such a low weight. Or some precut pieces fell to the floor and the person laminating the frame decided not to use them anymore ;) That's also in line with the owner's feedback who said the bike felt pretty noodly.

The good: The frame is surprisingly well built, the inside in general looks very clean. No wrinkles and almost no voids.

The bad: The rear dropout for the derailleur hanger I find horrible, it is so thin. This was mentioned in this thread already. The connection where front and rear triangle is glued together is done poorly too. You'll see why on the pics. The integration of the seatpost shape in the seattube isn't a showpiece either (an OEM SL7 seatpost doesn't fit, BTW). The BB area is pretty thin compared to other frames that I cut and honestly, I'm not surprised that one insert decided to part ways.

Would I recommend buying such a frame from a manufacturing/engineering perspective? Absolutely not. I'm not squeamish when it comes to carbon parts but IMHO I'd stay clear from such a frame.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: November 11, 2022, 09:50:41 AM »
I find reviews mostly meaningless. Handling is primarily determined by geometry, wheels, tires and air pressure. I would love to read reviews that have been done blindfolded, without the reviewer knowing what he or she is riding. But it's not happening for obvious reasons. Also, everyone seems to be able to give reviews about wheels and frames and whatnot, no matter how technically proficient he or she is. Today's disc bikes are so balanced and differences in handling are so small. I had a look at the geometry chart of the SC-R48D and I was already pretty sure I knew what I could expect in terms of handling. Of course, I may be wrong but then I'm the first to acknowledge that. To be perfectly honest, the main driver why I ordered it is because of its simple look, round seatpost, external cables (I have plenty integrated bikes), light weight and EPS molding technology.

BTW, the frame head tube is tapered 1 1/8” - 1 1/2”. I thought I read here that the upper section is 1 1/2” which it isn't.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Speeder SC-R48
« on: November 11, 2022, 12:11:54 AM »
I just ordered an SC-R48D frame. Justin is very easy to work with. No language barrier, quick answers.

Carbon gloss finish, size 520, 849 USD including shipping. According to Justin, about 2 months lead time.

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