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Re: Groupset News
From their youtube. With only 46t, it is not very interesting for me to be honest. I was hoping to be able to use a standard 10-50 or 10-51 mtb casette.
October 17, 2023, 02:09:10 PM |
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Re: Groupset News
From their youtube. With only 46t, it is not very interesting for me to be honest. I was hoping to be able to use a standard 10-50 or 10-51 mtb casette. I'd be scared to run Ltwoo's electronic setup for gravel. You'd be screwed if you were riding in a remote area and your RD decides to stop shifting. October 17, 2023, 02:28:23 PM |
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Re: Best and worst overall quality/value components/tools/gear from AliExpress?
Second what others have recommended Uno alloy stems RideNow TPU tubes (36g in use, 24g waiting to try) YBN chains (all my bikes run waxed YBN chains, including run about ratbike) Rhinowalk bags (gym, handlebar, top tube and seat roll in use, quality is excellent) XXX copy bottle cages (no worse at scratching bottles than other brands and more reliable than other brands, ie don’t break or eject bottles) To add Uno alloy handlebars, both road and gravel and my flared gravel bar has seen abuse. MZYRH flat pedals Wellgo red cleats (exactly the same as Favero and Powertap cleats) Zeray ZP-110 look keo compatible pedals AOlikes headband, sits under your helmet and silicone gutter stops sweat getting in your eyes. TPU folding flask - make your own gels 250ml worth and stick it in your back pocket Generic HR bands for Garmin HR, a consumable product but lasts as long as gamins, cheaper and comes in a range of colours. Generic alloy computer mount (Garmin or Wahoo) with GoPro mount underneath that mounts to your handlebar with hinge. Deemount tubeless sealants injectors Deemount side loading bottle cages Cheji cycling kit (just need to be aware pricing fluctuates madly) To avoid Generic alloy computer mount that mounts to your stem with two bolts, cracked too many to recommend Plastic computer mount with GoPro mount underneath that mounts to your handlebar, again cracked too many. Replica/copies/cheap cycling kit, especially bibs with the multicoloured 5D pads. October 17, 2023, 11:55:57 PM |
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Re: Chinese cycling clothes
How is the sizing on the Cheji skinsuit? Did you follow the sizing chart? Arrived today, tried on, not ridden in yet. Tempted to test in race tomorrow, except 40km ride to and from, I am a little unwilling to test new kit on rides of a 100+km. Fit wise, I am 184cm (6'1") 96cm chest (38") 82cm (32") waist and pretty solid legs, currently 78kg (170lbs) but usually a couple kg lighter. According to Cheji fit charts I should be XL, everything I own from Cheji, bib shorts and jersey are L (Which are comparable to M in Rapha pro team). So I went L with skinsuit and are very happy with result. Good, tight but not uncomfortable race fit. Quality wise it is good, stitching is flat. Only concern is the older style (as in a couple of years ago) two piece leg gripper. But otherwise looks great, even the design is growing on me. October 30, 2023, 04:41:29 AM |
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Re: Chinese cycling clothes
Update on the Cheji skinsuit Wore it for today's TT, which meant 110km round trip. As with previous experience with Cheji bibs and that chamois, started getting discomfort after over three hours in saddle. Still survived the slog home into the head/crosswind. Otherwise very comfortable with no straps digging into my shoulders. Sounds awesome. I'm gonna grab one. I'm 188cm/80kg, prob gonna go L, too. Which colour you grab? The blue to white to orange gradient fade. 86cm inseam And it did not crush my nuts, two hours aero on the hoods and drops, two hours causal ride home on the tops and hoods. Would you say the legs are long?Not bibs but skinsuit. The bottom half finishes just below the belly button. TThe natural stop required a little effort. When I put then on, thought the legs were long, but photo (which I have not got of phone) has them sitting at about the same length as M MAAP and S Pedal Mafia bibs I wore last week. October 31, 2023, 04:21:40 AM |
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Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
Hambini got this frame a review Despite Hambini’s gripes about “other” YouTubers, Cam Nichols’s review had similar conclusions. His “carbon expert” guy had similar remarks about the Evo’s carbon quality—its shit. What I’m really surprised is that nobody (including Hambini) is reaming the Evo for its horrendous aerodynamic properties. Rectangular tube profiles and the fattest headtube in the game. It’s so clearly a LARP of an aero bike. November 16, 2023, 10:51:55 AM |
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
https://handslingbikes.com/products/handsling-a1r0evo-sram-force-axsThis is not the lightcarbon frame, different bottom bracket, seat stays are different and geometry is not the same. November 18, 2023, 12:36:23 AM |
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Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
Without commenting on the YouTubers, I think the best-value frame that has evidence of aero testing in development is probably the Elilee Blize (~$1700 shipped USD including bar). Elilee looks as aerodynamic as cow on ice. It looks like V4RS, Trek Emonda and other lightweight race bikes, but aero it's not. You're billion times better off with Winspace T1500, even if it costs bit more November 20, 2023, 02:51:25 AM |
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Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
I don't see what makes the Evo non aero or a aero larp because it's cheap. My thesis statement on the Elves Evo's aerodynamics is that it's a bike designed and marketed as a full-on aero road bike but if you closely examine the design itself, it seems to ignore many important principles of aerodynamics and other important considerations, and does so in such a way that prioritizes the aesthetics of aerodynamics over things that actually make it aerodynamic. This is why I call it a LARP: it's trying very hard to play the part, without substantively doing so. This "aero aesthetic" compromises other important qualities, specifically comfort, stiffness-to-weight ratio, and ease of manufacture. If an aero bike is designed carelessly like the Evo appears to have been, then all this added weight and complexity is squandered as you'll find other substantially lighter and more comfortable bikes that are just as, if not more aero. You see western brands making this point. We have bikes like the Cannondale Supersix Evo 4 and the Tarmac SL8, which are "all-round" frames that compromise the aero aesthetic, but nonetheless are just as (if not more) aero than the full-aero frames produced by the same brand (see Tour Magazin tests thread on WW). To me this is a clear signal that the most substantial aero gains are to be made not in deep section tubes, but instead through careful implementation of aero design focused on surfaces that meet clean air. I'll get into what these features are in the next paragraph, but I'll make the point now that I doubt the Elves Falath Evo is substantially more aero than it's predecessor, or competing frames like the ICAN A22, Seka exceed, Blize, etc. Really I have 4 big criticisms of the Elves Evo design: rectangular tube profiles, headtube and fork junction with huge cross-sectional area and bad design, enormous gaps between tires and the frame cutout, and no bottle fairing. Rectangular tube profiles: I don't really need to explain myself here. It's objectively not as optimal as tubes with round leading edges. Headtube: arguably it's the most important part for aerodynamics. Everyone else is working to make the headtube as narrow and aerofoil-shaped as possible. The Cannondale Supersix Evo 4 is a great example. Much ink was spilled over the specialized speed sniffer. We've known the headtube is important since forever ago, just look at the Specialized shiv from 09, which had a big nosecone strapped to it. In contrast the Evo has the widest headtube I've ever seen. Oversize bearings and no effort to taper the headtube between them. The headtube cross section is short and distinctly not-aerofoil-shaped. AND the fork crown is crazy thick. Cutouts: cutouts work great, but they only work if the gap is minimized. Bikes that aren't trying to optimize the cutout simply don't have a substantial one (see the latest Specialized Shiv). On the other hand, the Evo pretends to have fully-faired wheel cutouts, but then in a bid to get 32mm of clearance, spoils the party with enormous spaces between the wheels and frame. This obviates the cutout entirely. It would probably be just as aero to have little to no cutout at all in this case. But the Evo has them, because the Evo is committed to the bit and needs to look like an aero bike. Bottles: We all ride with bottles. Bike manufacturers have finally caught on to this and started fairing the bottle with the downtube instead of mounting the bottle on the trailing edge of an aerofoil like they used to, which totally spoils any aerodynamic benefit you'd get from the tube section. Elves seems to have not gotten this memo. Now, this is just me and my eyes looking at the frame. I'm sure it's more aero than other frames. I am definitely sure many frames are more aero than the Evo. And most of all, I do not think the Evo is a good bang-for-buck in terms of aero performance for the weight and money it costs. November 21, 2023, 01:23:51 PM |
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Re: Elves Falath EVO 2023
the Simplon Pride 2 still has the best aero score with some of its tubes looking more rectangular than teardrop.... Kamm-tail, not rectangular, very important difference. November 22, 2023, 02:54:43 PM |
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