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29er / Re: 256 build by Jake
« on: July 30, 2014, 04:59:13 AM »
Quote from: Vipassana on July 30, 2014, 04:44:30 AM
How does the frame ride?

Because of some back problems I have only done some short rides but it feels light and nimble.
Lots of grip when climbing in loose sand  with 1.6 Bar front and rear.
I have to get used to the 70 cm wide handlebar.. I came from 62 cm
I didn't have to get used to 1x10 ,  32 x 11/36 at all, I came from 22/32/44 x 11/32

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29er / Re: 256 build by Jake
« on: July 30, 2014, 04:30:15 AM »
Actual weight is 8960 gr..

Some things I want to change:

Chainstay protector: I have a piece of tube now but I am searching for protective tape
Axles: Extralite has lighter ones but they are expensive
Dropper seatpost

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29er / Re: 256 build by Jake
« on: July 30, 2014, 03:45:36 AM »
Quote from: Vipassana on July 23, 2014, 07:35:37 PM
How is this build going?
I am already riding it...
Parts list with Reba:
 

With rigid fork:

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Nut of the rear axle of the IP-256
« on: July 30, 2014, 02:58:23 AM »
Quote from: Sitar_Ned on July 29, 2014, 09:52:10 PM
I don't know the answer to your question unfortunately, but I'm interested in this axle.

Would you happen to know how much the chiner axle weighs? I'll try to dig it.. pretty sure someone around here has posted the weight before.


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Component Deals & Selection / Nut of the rear axle of the IP-256
« on: July 29, 2014, 10:15:07 AM »
Can anyone tell me if the nut of the rear axle of the IP-256 is interchangable with the nut of a Shimano E-Tru axle?

I want to get one of these:  http://www.extralite.com/Products/Black%20Lock.htm  but it comes without the nut, and they say the nut of the Shimano E-Tru axle will fit.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Lightweight carbon fork with 15 mm axle
« on: July 29, 2014, 03:03:23 AM »
I ordered the rigid carbon fork IP-FK-052 from IPlay together with my IP-256. As you can see the fork is only 640 gr and a Schwalbe Nobby Nick 2.35 Has plenty of space!


there is a strange hole:

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29er / Re: Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 22, 2014, 05:01:36 PM »
Quote from: jonxmack on July 22, 2014, 04:17:42 AM
I was under the impression those white plastic "liners" were only meant to be used as guides, IE you run your cable all the way through them, then you pull the white plastic "liner" out, and your cable is in the right place.

In terms of the brake one, if your hose won't fit into the "liner" then you'll have to devise a way to connect your brake hose to something else to pull it through the frame. A good idea would be to run a regular brake/gear cable inner through the plastic liner until it comes out the other end, then you can put a few wraps of insulation or duct tape around the last few inches of old brake cable/new brake hose, pull it all the way back through the frame, and it should all work out nicely.

I just did my brake hose , i just taped it to the liner with thin and very sticky tape.
Just watch out that the brake hose doesn't get to oily in which case the tape might not stick and it  is more pushing that you should do and not to much pulling.
Another thing , before you feed the cable through the frame a little piece of the hose has to be cut of to remove the olive : don't do it with a stanley knife just use a cutter.
It doesn't matter if you crush the hose because you're going to make it the right size later on and the hose is quite difficult to cut with a Stanley knife.

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29er / Re: Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 21, 2014, 02:46:53 PM »
Quote from: Carbon_Dude on July 21, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
Jake, I'm not seeing any pictures.  Sounds like you have already run your cables but for the sake of completeness I'll ask a few more questions.  For the brake line, did you try starting at the chain stay and pushing the line up to the top tube?  For the R/D, I would expect you should have cable housing from the lever to the frame, bare cable run inside the liner to the exit point in the chain stay, then housing from the chain stay to the R/D mech.  Looks like the IP-256 also has an access cover on the underside of the BB to help with cable routing, under the plate is some cable routing guides and from what I've seen those guides are sized for bare cable.
I continue to be curious as to why causing the cable routing on your IP-256 to be difficult.
I haven't done the brake line yet. I am planning to do it  tomorrow, I am just making up my mind how to do it....
Yes I am planning to start at the chainstay.. I still have to figure out how to use the sleeve as a pullwire.

The R/D is in, it is the bare cable in this picture, the sleeve you can see is waiting for my future dropper's cable 8)


The cable routing on the 256 is not difficult!
I am just going slow because I don't want to make any stupid mistakes...and I am injured which will hopefully not last more than another week.

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29er / Re: Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 21, 2014, 02:30:06 PM »
Quote from: Carbon_Dude on July 21, 2014, 06:53:38 AM
Guess I'm glad I did not purchase an IP-256, doesn't make sense that the liner would be removed for the r/d cable and that the rear brake line does not fit through the frame.

The IP-256 appears to have a cap at the exit point of the brake cable, is that removable?  Again, without pictures I am really in the dark as to why your frame does not seem to be correctly designed for cable routing.  I keep looking at the pictures on the XMIplay website and the routing appears to be very much the same as my IP-256 which worked out great, although I didn't try to run cabling for a dropper seat post but that seems to be beside the point of your R/D and brake line routing.

I am not going to miss  the liner and  the rear brake line will fit through the frame ,it just doesn't fit through the liner.

The frame cable routing is ok the only problem is my inexperience in routing all cables internally.
 I will even be able to route a dropper cable completely or half internally !

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29er / Re: Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 21, 2014, 02:14:53 PM »
Quote from: brmeyer135 on July 21, 2014, 08:49:32 AM
Jake,
For your brakes, I would disconnect at the lever(leave current olive and piece....run that through, shouldn't lose any fluid...then look to cut the cable down.
Which XTR brakes did you go with?  Have you used them before?

I have got brand new 2014 XTR race brakes, the rear brake is much softer than the front and might need bleeding.

I have never shortened any hydr brake hose and also never ran them through frame and I didn't realize that the olive and connector would be on the end of the hose so the hole is a lot smaller...
On the other hand, the olive will not fit through the frame..
To illustrate this:

This also shows that the brake hose won't fit inside the liner provided so I will have to attach the brake hose to the liner somehow to get things done.

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29er / Re: Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 21, 2014, 06:09:36 AM »
I installed the cable for the r/d , took out the liner when finished an managed to put back in.
I took it out again and will leave it out and keep it untill I want to replace the cable.

Next up is the rear brake cable, my brakes are Shimano XTR's
The brake cable does't fit through the liner that came with the IP-256 so i think I will just tape the liner and the brake cable together and try to get it throughmostly pushing and not pulling.
Anyone here with experience and advice here?
It is of course extra tricky because I don't want to lose to much brakefluid....


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29er / Re: Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 19, 2014, 08:54:00 AM »
Thanks CD

1) there is no knotted pull in my 256, just the cable routing sleeve. Once the cable is in this sleeve has to pushed into the frame or shortened or removed completely to fit fit the outer ferrules?? on the outer shift cable properly in the frame. Why not just remove it?

2) I am not going to use the sleeving, just the hole to get in

3) Not even the outer shift cable fits through that liner so hydraulic hose for the breaks which is thicker won't fit either.

Another thing: rear brake handle on the right?

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29er / Internal cabling IP-256 , dropper
« on: July 19, 2014, 02:31:13 AM »
Should I take out the liners that came with the frame once the cables are in place?

I am doing the cable for the rear mech now and I prefer to take the liner out....

I am going for 1x10 and want to use the hole for the front mech for an internally routed dropper seatpost.
A cable actuated dropper will probably be easier to install tan a hydraulic one and the hole where the cable enters the frame must probably be enlarged a bit.

I am also wondering how to do the cable for the rear brakes, does it fit in the liner?


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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Headset installation (on an IP-256)
« on: July 15, 2014, 06:53:06 AM »
I have the Neco headset for my IP-256 and it looks exactly like the FSA headset you have.

Only the expander looks different but I got myself a different one anyway.


The problem I encounter is this:

It is very tight to say the least and I will have to use a 40 mm ID pipe and a hammer to get the ring on the fork all the way.
And it will be very difficult to get it off.
And because I have two forks I should have gotten two of these rings...

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29er / Re: 256 build by Jake
« on: July 13, 2014, 12:42:34 PM »
Neco headset:
Bottom:


Top:


Cap and "starnut':


Where should I put these two rings?

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