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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets So far I'm quite pleased with my ER9 groupset. I've been riding it back-to-back with my mechanical Ultegra bike and they're both good in their own ways. In my opinion, it's similar to driving an auto assist car versus a manual transmission. I find installing the ER9 easier than mechanical, but it's faster to tune mechanical once installed. Though I wish there were RD cage options with the ER9/X. The one thing I like with the OSPW Ceramic Speed knock-off I'm using on the Ultegra bike is the 4 levels of spring tension. For someone like me who climbs and descend rough California fire roads the added tension keeps the chain from bouncing without having to use a clutch RD. LTwoo's looser cage tension and smaller spring are a bit bouncy on rougher roads.
April 09, 2024, 01:20:25 PM
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
That's interesting. can you please link to your OSPW? On the er9, if you run 11-34 (native) or 11-36 (with a small cage extender), in small small, there's a lot of chain slack. Mind you, the app has "gear protection" that prevents that, plus you shouldn't cross chain, but if the OSPW acts as some de facto clutch, it becomes a lot less useless as an upgrade, at which point i'm curious to try. And I agree w you, i'm not paying 500$ for that farce.
It then becomes a question of whether there's an OSPW option for the er9/x.

I found with the ER9 50-34/11-34t is the biggest cassette I could run with minimal chain slack. Chain length remained the same from my previous 11-32t when I was running mechanical and I can still safely clear big/big if I go there by accident. Though I'm wondering if there's some sort of Shimano patent for removable derailleur cages? I wonder why LTwoo and Sensah insist on non-removable cages?

Here's the link to that OSPW:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806117049941.html

If you look closely at the photos you can see the 4 tension hole adjustments.

One more thought: I find gear protection an acceptable trade-off on the ER9/X because I feel small/small is where you'll most likely drop a chain. I also plan on keeping my chain catcher as an added bit of insurance.

April 10, 2024, 09:47:21 AM
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
Avoid these cages at all costs. Broke two of these, last one on a cobble section in a race. Pure garbage! Consider yourself warned :)

I've been riding these on some of the roughest urban Los Angeles roads with no issues. I don't ride my road bikes in the rain, only use immersive waxed chains and they work fine. If you crashed, it probably would have happened to the real Ceramic Speed OSPW. It's getting to the point people keep saying everything is junk on AliExpress, but for some weird reason all the junk seems to work for me with proper care and maintenance.

I'm starting to think on the same lines as @Serge_K that most problems people have on here are due to user error/negligence.

April 11, 2024, 09:30:13 AM
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Re: What are the recurring big sales on Ali? I didn't remember the Anniversary sale being this good in previous years. I think the next big one will be the June summer sale. There's a chance AliEx might amp up the coupons during some of the smaller sale dates.

https://promossale.com/aliexpress-sale-dates-2024/

April 11, 2024, 11:23:00 AM
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc! Any thoughts on these titanium DT style freehub bodies? I was thinking the HG version would resist bite marks better, though I'm not sure it's worth the premium. Also I'm not sure how beneficial having ceramic bearings would be.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806289533885.html

April 14, 2024, 09:52:19 AM
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets I've also been riding my ER9 groupset without a hitch and I ride on some rough road terrain and it just works. I have my ER9 gear tuned perfectly, quality replaceable batteries are cheap/plentiful, the high speed shifts are faster than any of my mechanical bikes and gear protection does a great job minimizing chain drops + keeping chain line optimized. On price alone I would probably get another ER9 groupset. No complaints on brakes either, they work fine.

April 14, 2024, 01:28:47 PM
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets At this sale price point, I'd consider getting a spare ER9 groupset. I really need to stop looking at AliExpress! lol
April 15, 2024, 11:52:26 AM
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
I've broken chains but never a quick link of any brand or type. I reuse them without any second thought until I retire the chain.

If I break a quicklink tomorrow I'll be singing a different tune!

Same here I've only broken chains, but I've never broken a quick link be it Shimano or even the cheap ones. The SUMC and Rider Ace quick links can be bought in bulk. They seem to have a shorter use life, but you can have like 50 of them for not much money.

April 17, 2024, 07:05:58 PM
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets Yesterday I took the ER9 bike out with extra padded shifters and using gel padded gloves. Adding bar tape strips on the inner top part of the shifters helped on comfort and probably using the gel padded gloves as well. Though it's still not as comfortable as bigger Shimano hoods, but at least I didn't get any hand numbing. Also I needed to do some more gear fine tuning specifically in the small/big and big/small combination. I was having slight shift issues shifting up and down the three biggest cogs while on the small chainring. Its most noticeable on climbs constantly shifting while adjusting for elevation and cadence. I'm hoping I have it dialed in now, if not I'll have to do the gear fine tune while riding.

Other than that, the ER9 has been running great. If I was building a new bike now, I wouldn't hesitate using Chinese electronic groupsets. My old semi-internal TFSA frame definitely feels like a new bike with all the component upgrades!

April 19, 2024, 12:41:13 PM
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Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
In the last few days, the er9 RD of a friend died for no reason. Got stuck in the hardest cog and nothing will make it shift, including reset, unplugging, replugging and everything i could think of. The FD works fine.
Then today, went for a ride with my gravel bike, and my own RD died exactly the same way! I went down a descent with bad asphalt and vibrations, at the end of the descent, dead RD.
I'm trying to get a response from l-twoo via the intermediary that sold me the groups, I'll keep you posted.
But as of right now, I'm extremely unhappy and would not recommend er9/erx because a bike has to work, if you can't trust your derailleur to shift, then buy something else.
I'll post updates.
TWO DEAD er9 RDs in one week under normal use.

Keep us posted if you're able to get a replacement RD. I wonder what other issues might be affecting the ER9/X besides water ingress. Does extreme vibration mess with the RD motion sensor, causing it not to wake from sleep mode?

April 20, 2024, 10:02:01 AM
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