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Re: Chinese cycling clothes
I havent taken the time to read much of this thread, but FYI, i just bought from the "Darevie official store" on Aliexpress a bib with the "elastic interface Paris HP men" pad, which afaik is very well regarded (120kg/m3 density in some parts, all foam, no gel), for 29 eur, shipped to Europe. It's black, nothing special, but it's the 1st time i see BIB at this price point with this pad.
It's under the "choiceday" thing on aliexpress, so it's unlikely to last, i guess? Headline price (BS, for sure, but still) is 70 eur. Their lower spec BIB from the same store is several euro more expensive.
The store itself has thousands of transactions, 98% positive reviews, blablabla.

I tried a pair of these and the leg was short and the opening strangled my thigh.

Can't say I was overly impressed with em

March 01, 2024, 07:27:28 AM
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Re: Chinese cycling clothes
I tried a pair of these and the leg was short and the opening strangled my thigh.

Can't say I was overly impressed with em

I had one pair from ali that strangled my thigh too. That was really odd. Can't wear them at all. I've worn various brands outside of ali and never had that happen.

March 02, 2024, 10:36:18 PM
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Re: TanTan TT-X38 Build
I havent looked at geometry charts, but the seatpost looks a bit like a triathlon seatpost with the ability to move the saddle mount fore / aft. But if that's the case, by how much? a triathlon seatpost would typically have much more play.
And so from that, is this supposed to be a bike that lets you sit more vertical vs BB, like a triathlon bike would?
The shape of the seat tube is reminiscent of the Giant Trinity, so is it just looks, or is that bike you can dial in more than typical road bikes to lay flat and go fast on?

The frame's got a pretty steep seat tube angle. Steeper than 74 degrees in some sizes. "Only" 73 on my size 58. The seatpost with the saddle clamp all the way back has very little setback if any at all. So yes. If you like to get on top of your BB this frame is for you.

March 03, 2024, 03:07:26 PM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
Me too.
I asked Workswell for the 306. But at the moment the interesting SL Version is not available.
Is from 316 and 366 a SL Version available?

From my emails with them, they offered these in size 52:
- 366 at 1130g, US$620 for frame and fork only (seat post is extra but it's standard 27.2)
- 316 light at 950g, US$890 for frame, fork, seat post
- 316 standard at 1100g, I didn't get a price because I wasn't interested in this frame

It just so happens that the Taipei Bike Show is happening this weekend, and I will go check it out.  I know Longteng has a booth, and likely other Chinese OEMs as well.  I'll report back on anything interesting.  (Let me know if anyone has any specific requests or questions in my DMs ... but I won't take requests for Hambini hairdresser pics, sorry....)

March 06, 2024, 01:43:31 AM
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Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
It just so happens that the Taipei Bike Show is happening this weekend, and I will go check it out.  I know Longteng has a booth, and likely other Chinese OEMs as well.  I'll report back on anything interesting.  (Let me know if anyone has any specific requests or questions in my DMs ... but I won't take requests for Hambini hairdresser pics, sorry....)

Just got back from the Taipei Bike Show – today was B2B and not open to the public, sh*t!.  I was dying to get in, so I ran down the street to the 7/11 and printed out a bogus business card and got in lol…

Of the Chinese open mold manufacturers, I only saw LightCarbon and Longteng.  Velobuild didn’t attend.  (And I didn’t see a presence from other Chinertown favorites like Elitewheels, Ltwoo, Winspace, Magene, etc.)  But I did get to see the LC017 and the LT266 in person, and got some intel on a new LT301 that will be released in a few months:

LC017: yes the downtube is quite boxy, but in person it looks/feels a bit more rounded than what’s on their website.  And the seat tube is rounded, not at all like the seat tube shown on their website.  Here is a video that I took: https://imgur.com/a/PNHdhI5.  It’s a niiiiice looking frame.

Interestingly, I saw several high-end bikes at the show with similarly boxy down tubes with sharp edges, including the Giant TCR, a Bianchi, a Bianchi Raparto Corse, and a Java Volata that won a gold award at the show: https://imgur.com/a/NEb8cpZ.  I talked to one of the bike designers and asked them about the design choice, and he said that they use less materials to keep the bike light weight, and squares are stronger than curved shapes.  In other words, for an all-arounder, they sacrificed certain aero gains in favor of weight savings.  I’m not engineer so I have no idea if this is true, I’m just relaying what one of the bike designers at the show said to me.

LT266: from my amateur eyes, this looks like a really well-made frame.  Alisa from Longteng was at the show, and she told me that it’s made from a one piece monocoque mold, so they can achieve a higher degree of uniformity and quality control.  The tubes are more rounded than the LC017.  Interestingly, she told me that they are testing an unannounced frame, the LT301, I’m posting the geometry and a short video here: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.  It looks to have a more aero profile than the LT266 and LC017 but still weighs under 1000g.  Alisa said they just finished testing the 54cm frame, and are going through tests for the other sizes – it will be a few months before they start selling it, although if anyone wants a 54, it’s available if you contact Alisa directly.  (OT: I asked which brands Longteng acts as OEM for, the only thing I could get out of Alisa was that they make a few frames for Argon.)

Does this help with my bike choice?  I probably will go with one of these and not the Velobuild frames, since I’ve seen and touched them in person.  Between the LC017 and LT266?  I have no idea….

That’s all I have, cheers.

March 07, 2024, 01:25:48 AM
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
Does it work? Does it keep warm? I watched this video last month and the claims are pretty incredible
I have the sleeveless one from Darevie posted above, should be >2yrs by now... it's really good, the fabric is comfortable, and it's warm alright. I use even in some hotter rides because it helps keeping sweat away from the body, and avoids you being soaked.
also, even with that time and a lot of uses, it's still good, stretching/compression is still good too... very nice especially for the price
For rides down to like 5C I think it can handle well, below that I'd look for a 'closed' fabric which should be warmer

March 07, 2024, 06:20:45 AM
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New frame: Longteng RD301-D New forum member here, and starting a new thread after posting about this in a thread on the LightCarbon LCR017-D (https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4309.255.html).

Long story short: I snuck in to the Taipei Bike Show today to check out some Longteng and LightCarbon frames, and at the Longteng booth, I found out that they have an unreleased frame which is undergoing testing: the RD301-D.  Here is a short video that I took, and a few pages from their brochure with its geometry: https://imgur.com/a/XvH327j.

Appearance wise, the 301 doesn't break any new ground, but a few things stand out:
- It has an aero profile but is under 1000g weight
- The geometry (especially stack) sort of sits between an upright endurance bike and bikes like the Velobuild 177 and 268, Winspace SLC 2.0 and 1500, Yoeleo R11 - this geometry is a sweet spot for me [edit: the geometry seems comparable to the touted all-arounder Trigon AR01]
- Whoa, max tire clearance of 38!
- Cool little storage space on the downtube
- Threaded T47 BB
- Per their rep Alisa, it's made with a mix of T800 and T1000 carbon

This frame hasn't been posted on their website, and Alisa said it will be released "in a few months" once testing is complete.  The 54cm has passed their tests and is available if anyone is interested - you can email Alisa at longtengalisa@163.com.

Peace out!

[Edited to add reference to the Trigon AR01]

March 07, 2024, 09:11:28 AM
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Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056 My 1056 once again. Weight is 7,34 kg - without tool bag.
March 15, 2024, 02:11:44 AM
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Re: Alternative for blipbox Thanks!!.

But i have to update the info above as sram seamingly did the unthinkable and just enabled the sram blips to function as a standalone shifter.

https://bikerumor.com/sram-wireless-blips-can-now-be-paired-w-o-shifters/

It enables some serious potential as the circuit boards are really small.

March 16, 2024, 12:24:12 PM
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Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame I finally built the bike and take one week of riding on a trainer, everything work nice, no creaking or clicking, seatpost doesn't slip despite the fact that I did not use grip paste and cut seatpost so clamp doesn't contacted with grippy coating.

The build was relatively easy, no stuck cables or bad threads, calipers and bottom bracket are align.

But there was a several nuances during the build:
1) Sharp edge where cables exits from handlebar (under the "stem" area), not enough to cut housings, but enough to scratch them and make routing process more difficult. So i sanded it.
2) Expander plug fit in steerer tube very tight and i can't extract it without tools, so i sanded some material from plug. But i think, this is plug problem, not steerer tube, because expander plug from my old bike fits with no problem.
3) Stuffing four housings in headset pressing ring was real pain in my ass, there is enough space for them but no more than that.
4) Computer mount, which comes with handlebar is flexy, and I'm afraid it might break on bumps. Here some video only with garmin edge 520
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6zJ4M9U8mGiqyUYu8
And with 200g bike light
https://photos.app.goo.gl/h3aWyDJYAE5Yg76n8
So I'm looking for more rigid computer mount.

But overall it's a good frameset, it's stiffer in bottom bracket area than my old Jamis Xenith Race (2014), handlebar shape nice and comfortable, laser decals looks amazing.
Final weight is 7.685 kg with pedals, bottle cages, computer mounts and sensors, I took into account all the components that are attached to the frame.

March 17, 2024, 07:26:58 AM
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