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Re: Groupset News
The official press conference wrapped up yesterday and media first impressions are trickling in Weights Left & right levers L-TWOO quoted weight: 225g (each) Biketo measured weight: 445.1g 雪大爷单车 measured weight: 223.1g (left), 222g (right) ![]() FD L-TWOO quoted weight: 150g Biketo measured weight: 139.3g 雪大爷单车 measured weight: 139.1g ![]() RD L-TWOO quoted weight: 270g Biketo measured weight: 275.6g 雪大爷单车 measured weight: 275.7g ![]() Seatpost battery & cables L-TWOO quoted weight: 62g (battery only) Biketo measured weight: 85.1g 雪大爷单车 measured weight: 85.2g ![]() Pricing Big surprise is that there is a 3500RMB eR9 Alloy to sit below the 4500RMB eRX Carbon. Disregard their mechanical naming convention because both are 12s. ![]() It's unclear how much heavier eR9 will be. Testimonials I'll briefly summarise this vlog from a LBS proprietor who was invited to the launch:
Function I was mistaken by the shifting logic. As opposed to being SRAM style with a single button on either side, it's actually Shimano style with 2 buttons on each lever but laid out the other way around. Shifting layouts and derailleur adjustments are configurable in-app. Left lever: Inner textured button shifts to big ring, outer smooth button shifts to small ring Right lever: Inner textured button shifts to a smaller cog, outer smooth button shifts to a larger cog ![]() Direct mount hanger is a option for the rd. I can't figure out where a power cable goes for either derailleur. How do you charge the battery(s) what kind of battery.We actually don't know if it's DM hanger capable until someone tries installing it. The callipers for example appeared to be PM at first but they're actually their own proprietary thing with different dimensions to work around patents. The levers are semi-wireless and powered by CR2032 batteries while the FD and RD are powered by an 800mAh seatpost battery (for reference, BT-DN300 is 500mAh, EPS V3 is 720mAh and K-Force WE is 1100mAh). Charging is handled by a magnetic connector at the backside of the RD facing NDS. ![]() Does that mean this hanger will be used for both gravel & road with a fairly big cassette clearance?RD max capacity is still rated at 32T as opposed to the industry standard 34T. I'm sure that while an 11-34T cassette could fit, a 36T like CS-HG710-12 certainly wouldn't. Personal thoughts Even though they are the best 'put together' of the 3 upstart groupset manufacturers, it is still painfully obvious that this is a small operation prone to amateur mistakes. For example, L-TWOO's press conference presentation deck and website marketing material for this launch was riddled with typos and inaccuracies. They incorrectly spelled the word for brifter, the battery capacity was wrongly labelled at 850mAh and the eR9 was originally listed as 11s leading some to believe that 12s function would be software locked for eRX only. And if you thought that getting your hands on a groupset abroad is difficult, local distribution isn't much better. For instance, they decided to setup a new WeChat account to handle all eRX direct pre-sales (unbelievably inane imo) which would quickly be disabled for overactivity because they used a personal account as opposed to an enterprise account. Lastly, they decided to respond to people who felt that the 4500RMB pricetag was too steep by joking that it was a more of a 'you' problem (1:55) [EDIT: now cut from the video...I guess they aren't that tone deaf] so don't expect price cuts any time soon. However, Chinese Shimano resellers have already responded by slashing the price of R7170 'small kits' so we may well see a price war unfold in the future. Misc L-TWOO has also started supplying Hydraulic R7 Alloy 10s to OEMs ![]() March 16, 2023, 10:49:40 AM |
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Re: FSA ACR Spacer to normal stem adapter?
Thanks. I'd never seen that mentioned before. Sure ? See 4 posts above this one http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3756.msg38378.html#msg38378 ![]() March 17, 2023, 08:17:18 AM |
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Re: Groupset News
Utter cringe aside, I suspect that Sergey is the same guy pictured in this article from Nov '18. Crazy to consider how 4.5 years ago, the company was showing their first road groupset in the R7 10s at Taipei Cycle '18. Back then, L-TWOO was just coasting along in a secondary position behind Sensah. It was only when the company received Series B financing from Hillhouse in Feb '21 and Series C financing from SCGC in May '22 that R&D investment kicked into high gear. Hopefully this VC money gravy train doesn't run out anytime soon because the alternative is stagnation like Sensah who've seemingly raised no money since Dec '18. ![]() March 17, 2023, 04:25:56 PM |
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Re: Groupset News
revised EDS OX![]() March 19, 2023, 01:05:08 AM |
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Re: Groupset News
More groupset....wireless for rim brake, Wheeltop EDS March 24, 2023, 12:12:31 PM |
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Re: Groupset News
Sensah hydraulic, the hoods are just...![]() ![]() March 24, 2023, 03:26:36 PM |
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Re: Carbonda FM1136
Some pictures of my setup. April 20, 2023, 02:02:30 PM |
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Re: Workswell WCB-G 358
That fork looks a little sketch
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Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
Regrettably there is more than two now. The original T47 spec was effectively a threaded PF30 (68mm Width, 46mm ID) bottom bracket shell. You could then run cups for internal bearings if you were using one of the BB30/PF30 specific cranks which had a short spindle or cups for external bearings to run Shimano cranks or "Long Spindle" 30mm cranks. Now I think basically every 30mm (or 28mm DUB) crankset uses a "long spindle" but frame manufacturers realised that they could thread their BB386 (86mm Wide, 46mm ID) bottom brackets and use the T47 cups for internal bearings so that customers could have the threaded bottom brackets they want and manufacturers could continue their shitty manufacturing tolerances. Then Cervelo and Factor decided to really fuck with everyone and do a half internal, half external variant of T47. I'm one of the minority that actually likes pressfit interfaces.... It just sucks that manufacturers can't be bother to spend the extra $10 to do it correctly. July 05, 2023, 06:39:47 PM |
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Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
Anyone tried these new lightweight cassettes by ZTTO out? Seems like a competitor to the SROAD cassettes as all the cogs are steel but are hollowed out to save weight. The main difference is that the aluminum spider seems to be attached with thicker and more robust arms, maybe fixing the cracking issue from long-term use of SROAD. 11-speed version: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805693978065.html 12-speed version: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805694312729.html ![]() August 25, 2023, 06:08:43 PM |
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