They both have absolutely no knowledge or understanding of bikes, are keenly aware of it, and not especially keen for their viewers to cotton on.  So it figures.  They both firmly fit in the hyped up product fanboi category.

I also came across a Ostro VAM replica frame without logo in size 52 for around $500 USD. I don't have any proof but I personally don't believe they really give you T1000 / T1100 for a cheap frame like this, even if they have it is probably just a single layer of T1000, which is pretty much useless (the western brands do it like this too when they claim they used T1000 btw).

Agreed.  Nice bike for sure, but I would build it without the logo.  Actually would look cleaner and slicker too imho.

No sympathy for the people who make fakes and who fuel this industry. As an artistic creator, I would not like someone to copy my works and make the same signature as mine and also sell them under my name. Let these people get inspired and develop their own design, why not. Not to mention that I find it corny. What would you say if someone took your appearance and moved into your bed?

I'll chip in on my Faketor Ostro too.

My frame was marketed as the highest tier amongst the faketor ostro made in chinese factories. I build it up myself with the original spacers and ceramicspeed bb so that people in my group ride don't call me out.



it was easy to build and the carbon layup internally were extremely smooth, not a speck of carbon dust on my frame.

The headset fit perfectly, the bb threaded and fitted snugly and the flat mounts came faced properly (no brake rubs).

For a size 54 full white frame, it came in at around 1054g.  （edited 6 Sep 2024: see photos in later posts)