Replica Factor Ostro VAM

[pearl]

Always a fan of high level trolling, did we ever get the link to this frame? Owners, can you compare it to other bikes you have ridden?

[BeR]

I wish we can test and check the carbon layup used for the frame.

[panel]

estingo.......where can that frame be purchased and did you get it painted or does it come that way if you pick a certain paint scheme ? Stickers from ?

[estingo]

estingo.......where can that frame be purchased and did you get it painted or does it come that way if you pick a certain paint scheme ? Stickers from ?

I've purchased it on Aliexpress (store: taiwan factory bike parts Store - model New Model Fasterway Ostro) and I could choose between any factor color scheme (painted or the stickers are under the paint), I doubted the one without any paint or just the clear paint that you could see the carbon layers. I know a lot of people here don't like replicas or placing a brand name on a copied frame, but in the end, I still did it, because I liked it (sorry).

I doubted also the long ten that Serge-K has, but I believe the rear is still a bit different, I think the rear tubes are a bit smaller in diameter than the long ten, but that opinion is just based on pictures that I saw so I don't know for sure + there is not a big price difference between those frames. I considered basically a lot of frames, like everyone does. I checked all bike sizes and geometries and my personal preference in looks and this was, what came out.

Thanks for your feedback. What is the quality of the frame ? (Paint, faced caliper, inside carbon,...)

Difficult to say, it's my first build and I watched a lot of comments and threads here and YouTube clips from various builders/YouTubers. For my liking is the paint job very well done, I was expecting worse, to be honest. The placement of the calipers is fine for what I have and fits perfectly so that should be fine too. And I don't have a small camera to look into the bike so I have no idea what it in looks like inside other than the BB part.

For me the BB threads look good too, if I compare them to some clips that I saw from Hambini's YouTube channel, so overall I'm quite pleased. The handlebar is a copy of black inc. and I need to sand it a bit, the inside of the stem where the wires enter that it's not too sharp but I have the feeling everyone is doing this.

In the end, I think it was carbon T1000 UD instead of T1100 but okay good enough for me, I'm just an amateur, no pro by any means, so I also think I won't break the d-shaped tube from the front fork. I won't generate that much force I'm afraid, so I do not foresee any problems but I will let you know, once it's finished and I actually drove a decent amount of km or miles.

[BeR]

I am looking for your finished build.

[Ar26]

No sympathy for the people who make fakes and who fuel this industry. As an artistic creator, I would not like someone to copy my works and make the same signature as mine and also sell them under my name. Let these people get inspired and develop their own design, why not. Not to mention that I find it corny. What would you say if someone took your appearance and moved into your bed?

[ausmtb8989]

Agreed.  Nice bike for sure, but I would build it without the logo.  Actually would look cleaner and slicker too imho.

[Takiyaki]

Yea the logos have to go, I dont understand the mentality of trying to pass off a replica as real.

[tssy5]

I've purchased it on Aliexpress (store: taiwan factory bike parts Store - model New Model Fasterway Ostro) and I could choose between any factor color scheme (painted or the stickers are under the paint), I doubted the one without any paint or just the clear paint that you could see the carbon layers. I know a lot of people here don't like replicas or placing a brand name on a copied frame, but in the end, I still did it, because I liked it (sorry).

I doubted also the long ten that Serge-K has, but I believe the rear is still a bit different, I think the rear tubes are a bit smaller in diameter than the long ten, but that opinion is just based on pictures that I saw so I don't know for sure + there is not a big price difference between those frames. I considered basically a lot of frames, like everyone does. I checked all bike sizes and geometries and my personal preference in looks and this was, what came out.

Difficult to say, it's my first build and I watched a lot of comments and threads here and YouTube clips from various builders/YouTubers. For my liking is the paint job very well done, I was expecting worse, to be honest. The placement of the calipers is fine for what I have and fits perfectly so that should be fine too. And I don't have a small camera to look into the bike so I have no idea what it in looks like inside other than the BB part.

For me the BB threads look good too, if I compare them to some clips that I saw from Hambini's YouTube channel, so overall I'm quite pleased. The handlebar is a copy of black inc. and I need to sand it a bit, the inside of the stem where the wires enter that it's not too sharp but I have the feeling everyone is doing this.

In the end, I think it was carbon T1000 UD instead of T1100 but okay good enough for me, I'm just an amateur, no pro by any means, so I also think I won't break the d-shaped tube from the front fork. I won't generate that much force I'm afraid, so I do not foresee any problems but I will let you know, once it's finished and I actually drove a decent amount of km or miles.

I also came across a Ostro VAM replica frame without logo in size 52 for around $500 USD. I don't have any proof but I personally don't believe they really give you T1000 / T1100 for a cheap frame like this, even if they have it is probably just a single layer of T1000, which is pretty much useless (the western brands do it like this too when they claim they used T1000 btw).

Full build is 8kg including pedals, it feels a bit less stiff than my Giant TCR Advanced 2 but my TCR creaks like hell in the BB area when riding uphill, yet this supposed to be cheap quality aliexpress frame has no creaking issues.

Bad thing about this replica is that the little parts are not high quality, which means you would need to get yourself some titanium bolts, there is also no manual whatsoever so you would need to figure out those little issues yourself such as finding the right size and length for the bolts, could be pain in the ass if you are not a DIY person.

The paint is really great for this price, it is not perfect but you can hardly notice those minor issues without knowing where to look.

[estingo]

I also came across a Ostro VAM replica frame without logo in size 52 for around $500 USD. I don't have any proof but I personally don't believe they really give you T1000 / T1100 for a cheap frame like this, even if they have it is probably just a single layer of T1000, which is pretty much useless (the western brands do it like this too when they claim they used T1000 btw).

Probably the best take on the carbon layers that they used, for that price range for sure. We will see in the end how that goes. Do you have a picture of your bike tssy5?

Agreed.  Nice bike for sure, but I would build it without the logo.  Actually would look cleaner and slicker too imho.

I know it will bring controversy and that many people, especially on this form, don't like it.

No sympathy for the people who make fakes and who fuel this industry. As an artistic creator, I would not like someone to copy my works and make the same signature as mine and also sell them under my name. Let these people get inspired and develop their own design, why not. Not to mention that I find it corny. What would you say if someone took your appearance and moved into your bed?

What an analogy, but I get where you are coming from. For your information I'm not selling this bike as a real one, nor do I try to sleep with someone else to take that identity. See it as a cheap kit car on a Pontiac Fiero base. If you copy a Lamborghini with a kit on the base of a Pontiac Fiero, it won't drive like a Lambo, it won't sound like a Lambo, it just looks like it.

I believe that this fake Factor also won't drive like a real Factor, I'll get Elite Drive wheels, probably the Black Inc wheels are much better, the stiffness in the frame and handlebars will be much less than the original. The original has every where Ceramicspeed bearings, I don't. At a kit car it's quite obvious for the trained eye, I think it will also be obvious for the factor that it's a replica (for the trained eye).
And at this point I can't get rid of the stickers anymore, sorry.

[OralMaster]

I'll chip in on my Faketor Ostro too.

My frame was marketed as the highest tier amongst the faketor ostro made in chinese factories. I build it up myself with the original spacers and ceramicspeed bb so that people in my group ride don't call me out.



it was easy to build and the carbon layup internally were extremely smooth, not a speck of carbon dust on my frame.

The headset fit perfectly, the bb threaded and fitted snugly and the flat mounts came faced properly (no brake rubs).

For a size 54 full white frame, it came in at around 1054g.  （edited 6 Sep 2024: see photos in later posts)

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102991493/pages/all-items.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.pcShopHead_2006254741865.1&shop_sortType=bestmatch_sort

search for "first class carbon" store

[tssy5]

Probably the best take on the carbon layers that they used, for that price range for sure. We will see in the end how that goes. Do you have a picture of your bike tssy5?

I know it will bring controversy and that many people, especially on this form, don't like it.

What an analogy, but I get where you are coming from. For your information I'm not selling this bike as a real one, nor do I try to sleep with someone else to take that identity. See it as a cheap kit car on a Pontiac Fiero base. If you copy a Lamborghini with a kit on the base of a Pontiac Fiero, it won't drive like a Lambo, it won't sound like a Lambo, it just looks like it.

I believe that this fake Factor also won't drive like a real Factor, I'll get Elite Drive wheels, probably the Black Inc wheels are much better, the stiffness in the frame and handlebars will be much less than the original. The original has every where Ceramicspeed bearings, I don't. At a kit car it's quite obvious for the trained eye, I think it will also be obvious for the factor that it's a replica (for the trained eye).
And at this point I can't get rid of the stickers anymore, sorry.

Matte black with no logo, pretty stealthy

[estingo]

Matte black with no logo, pretty stealthy

Looks also pretty cool to me! It's awesome that you went for this matte stealthy black. Bought as well some original parts like the head spacer ring, and seatpost wedge. I'm also still doubting if I add under the headset top cover a rubber ring to prevent getting moisture in the headset bearings.

For my build:
I still need a chain, cassette, and wheels. Received this week the chainring 1x, which is a Rotor Qarbon Q-ring with 52t but I received the 50t so I need to wait for that too. 

[Serge_K]

I'll chip in on my Faketor Ostro too.

My frame was marketed as the highest tier amongst the faketor ostro made in chinese factories. I build it up myself with the original spacers and ceramicspeed bb so that people in my group ride don't call me out.

it was easy to build and the carbon layup internally were extremely smooth, not a speck of carbon dust on my frame.

The headset fit perfectly, the bb threaded and fitted snugly and the flat mounts came faced properly (no brake rubs).

For a size 54 full white frame, it came in at around 1000g. 
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https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1102991493/pages/all-items.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.pcShopHead_2006254741865.1&shop_sortType=bestmatch_sort

Wow, i want to live inside that frame, it looks PERFECT! and i thought my LT268 was pretty inside, this is next level!
I kind of want one now :/
Can you post a few pictures of yours? And how does it ride? Did you get it from that aliexpress store? you got the highest level of carbon? how much did you pay and shipped to what part of the world?

[tssy5]

Looks also pretty cool to me! It's awesome that you went for this matte stealthy black. Bought as well some original parts like the head spacer ring, and seatpost wedge. I'm also still doubting if I add under the headset top cover a rubber ring to prevent getting moisture in the headset bearings.

For my build:
I still need a chain, cassette, and wheels. Received this week the chainring 1x, which is a Rotor Qarbon Q-ring with 52t but I received the 50t so I need to wait for that too.

That's a cool chainring. The little parts like headset spacers and top cover came with the frame so I don't need to buy them again, however the bolts they provided are pretty low quality so I bought some titanium bolts and replaced them.