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A couple additional notes. First, everything was very well faced. Maybe due to that I ordered it as a built bike and that was an advantage, or maybe they just do a nice job. I did pull the bb to replace with a ceramic, and the finish level interior is at least as nice as the photos posted.
The crankset they sent I scoffed at, but its actually ok, 780g w rings, direct mount 3 bolt sram style, 24 mm. I'm not going to use it as I have a carbon sram here with a quarq.
I did have a very minor issue with the seatpost, I had ordered all matching gold anno bolts for everything. The kit for the seatpost came with a gold barrel, and it was set for the oem post and about a half mm larger than tantan's. Fixed it by reaming the post, but the tantan barrel was visually smaller, so not a tolerance thing but an actual difference.

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So a wee bit of good news for those with items in transit. My bike from Tantan arrived today, despite still tracking on 17track as sitting this am. Called USPS service line and they told me (automated) it was out for delivery.
No customs hassle. Qualified as de minimis, no questions asked.

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The real sl8 is 160 only as Specialized used a spacing on the fork mounts that's unique to it and the Aetheos, supposedly for mass reduction. It won't take a 140 mount.  Its only a problem for Campy users as the stock Campy road front caliper is native 160 (the mount is cast into the caliper) and doesn't work on an Sl8. The solution is to use a rear caliper and the stock Specialized mount w/ the 160 rotor. Ekar calipers are cheapish and identical to the road 140 other than matte finish and logo.

Normal flat mount spacing on the fork is 70mm, this fork and the actual sl8 measure 60mm

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Mine is here. Initial impressions-well packed, wheels and frame in single box (size 49). My bike shipped 160/160 rotors (wheeltop build) . Rotors are low end shimano. Crank (going in bin) is senix, rings look same brand but ok. 
As far as the fork goes, the distance between the points for the mount on the fork is 60mm. The adapter does not appear to be reversible for 140, but I'm not taking it off for now as I'm running 160 anyway. Will update when I mount campy calipers in a couple weeks.
The seatpost binder is even branded (tarmac) so suspect the Hylix post will fit for those wanting zero.
The chameleon white is stunning in the sun.
Only niggle so far is paid for the 3d saddle and didn't get one. have one here.

Build report in a day or so.

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I thought they said another 7-10 days yesterday? anyway regardless good news!
Hopefully the post will not take 3 weeks! Watching the slow ass tracking daily is killer! ;D
LOL. Mine landed in the USA 6 days ago, no tracking updates, called usps today and its out for delivery to me today, finally, on day 93 since payment. Will assemble and ride over the weekend.

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Yeah, happening a fair amount lately. My frame was held for 5 days by Chinese customs. Its also landed in USA but no tracking movement for 5 days...

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If you give her the go ahead she'll send you an invoice along with payment options-paypal, wise etc.

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^ I've been digging around a bit. The sl8 isn't specifically  patented that I can find, but it appears that the sl6 or 7 is-D865574(search here https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/static/pages/ppubsbasic.html). Since most of the design elements of the sl8 are almost identical to the sl7, I suspect its not been patented as its covered by the prior patent.  Sworks Tarmac sl8 is trademarked. Whether Chinese authorities will enforce these patents remains to be seen, but I suspect that its enough to make folks nervous given Specialized pressure.

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They'll build any frame up complete, just email them and ask for a quote. Some limitations-ie they don't do powermeter cranksets, but they can do Shimano builds, or Wheeltop.

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My frame in transit just tracks now as landed, so I'll know shortly what the current deal is.

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My understanding is that for China and a few other countries, the De Minimis is being replaced by an enhanced "type 11" process.   This process lets one import items with values up to $2500 USD in a streamlined process.   Exporter/seller has to follow the "enhanced" custom's steps where the seller has to pre-register with Customs the item/s being imported.   Seller's name/business,  Purchaser's name and address, the full 10 digit commodity code,  Item/s value, and then pay up front associated tariffs and processing fees.  This way it makes it look like the seller is paying all the tariffs, but in reality, the seller has to collect the tariffs from the buyer and then pay this to Customs.  If the Tariffs aren't paid, then the buyer must pay the bill before the item clears customs.

My understanding is that it is a similar process to how sellers in other state's like E-bay, online shops, and Amazon have to collect sales taxes for the states they ship their items to.

I presume that this burden will fall on Aliexpress, Temu, and other foreign online sellers. 

Through this process, if tariff rates and policies change, Customs will charge and collect the Tariff-de-jour.   For all of us who used the De Minimis process, those days are gone forever.

I think that's mostly correct. Current rule 11 items come in with an invoice from the transporter-ie FedEx or DHL. For commercial accounts they bill after delivery, but for consumer accounts going forward I suspect they'll bill prior to. It wouldn't surprise me if the Chinese shippers do what they already do for Europe, which is offer DPD (duty paid delivery) where the tariff is rolled into the shipping cost up front. This streamlines the timeline. But first you have to have a stable and known tariff....

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Even at 145% he could still be profitable.

Rockbros glove on Ali  7.42 USD-Jeff probably gets a break when he orders in quantity  and he's not seeing min fees on import duties.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808036099693.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.9.2fe7xBcTxBcT87&algo_pvid=640097c4-2190-40d9-80d4-16295f4568e3&algo_exp_id=640097c4-2190-40d9-80d4-16295f4568e3-8&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2288%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2115.14%217.42%21%21%21110.26%2154.03%21%402103146c17443984637252631ee277%2112000044284913888%21sea%21US%211699911272%21X&curPageLogUid=63IFQJynPbau&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

Same glove AFAIK on Amazon at 20 USD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLKRBCFT/ref=twister_B0DLKRDGMN?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

Amazon ships those, but they're not the seller, Rockbros is (if enter a size you can look at the right panel under "sold by"). Amazon is just a storefront and shipper and charges a big fee for that, but never owns the merch. Most of the Asian goods on Amazon are handled that way. A very large percentage of Amazon's business is just warehousing and shipping, not acting as a retailer.

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I wouldn't buy at the moment unless you assume that you're going to pay 1.5x on top of the listed price.
Even with a declared value below $800 you're now looking at ridiculous tariffs, and again while we know stuff gets shipped with low declared values, I suspect that will become more risky as the stakes go up.

If all you're concerned about is delivery, I don't see that as a problem. If anything the sellers are likely going to be hungry for sales. They don't pay the tariff, you do.

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I can see a business forming for some enterprising Canadian. Create a drop address for US citizens and have things shipped to Canada. Then it "gets moved" over the border and posted internally through UPS / DHL etc..

Like the mail forwarders but slightly more manual. It is probably not legal, although if it is a "gift" then it doesn't get a tariff or insurance.

Ahh, good luck with that. Risk jail as a smuggler over aliexpress stuff? No thank you.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-10/trump-tariffs-on-china-now-at-least-145-as-trade-war-ramps-up

" De minimis packages under $800, effective 2 May:

The US will tax imports of items priced up to $800 at a rate of 120% of their value, up from a prior plan to levy a 90% ad valorem tax.

De Minimis is now more expensive than standard tariffs. At this point, just make it an embargo.


Well, they're not dumb-they're well aware of declared values on small items being lower than actual value...

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They don't eat the cost. What's dangerous to the consumer buying with all this uncertainty is that you pay, say 2k for a complete x68. They ship. When it arrives in USA, the shipper either holds it and sends you a bill for the tariff (currently 140% or roughly 1400) plus brokerage fee and cpb fees, or  delivers it then sends you a bill for that amount. YOU, the importer, pay the tariff, not the shipper.

Shippers are using low declared values to qualify for de minimis for now or low buyer expense later, but that's a risky proposition.

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