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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
« on: March 26, 2025, 02:00:35 PM »
Quote from: Sander2177 on March 26, 2025, 06:39:01 AM
Anyone tried  Gelu knock off saddle yet!

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006344805423.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.68a1afDiafDiSe&algo_pvid=9153a5af-5944-4ea7-8d06-936d5f78fa1a&algo_exp_id=9153a5af-5944-4ea7-8d06-936d5f78fa1a-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2284%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21GBP%21129.15%2161.99%21%21%21162.33%2177.92%21%40211b615317429889876273029ec6b2%2112000036835000258%21sea%21UK%212856187367%21X&curPageLogUid=mNnsgWaaKkxt&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

Sure, see:

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,776.msg76850.html#msg76850
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,776.msg77569.html#msg77569
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,776.msg77570.html#msg77570

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Component Deals & Selection / Ryet K1 vs. OdinZeus K1 (cotinued)
« on: March 26, 2025, 01:59:04 PM »
More pictures!

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Component Deals & Selection / Ryet K1 vs. OdinZeus K1
« on: March 26, 2025, 01:56:48 PM »
This is a follow up of my previous findings:

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,776.msg76850.html#msg76850

I bought the Elita One 63D seat post and the OdinZeus K1 saddle so I could compare both (vs. Ryet K1) more closely and just keep one of them.

First, some measurements:

Ryet K1OdinZeus K1
Weight52.5 g57.9 g
Rail to Rail37.89 mm36 mm
Rail Height7.46 mm8.85 mm
Rail Width5.49 mm6.62 mm

Now, my observations:

  • Although Ryet claims the rail dimensions to be as the original Gelu K1, they are 1 mm smaller in both width and height.
  • Both saddles can be used on the Elita One seat post. However, the Ryet K1 cannot be used on 1 bolt style clamps due to the smaller diameter of its rails. I confirmed with OdinZeus' seller the diameter of their saddle rails, to which they said 7 mm x 9 mm. As can be seen on the pictures, close enough.
  • OdinZeus rail-to-rail does not seat completely flat on the bottom plate of the seat clamp (not a problem on the 1 bolt clamp). Ryet K1 seems to fit better. In both cases, the bolts were just finger tight.
  • Ryet K1 has "sand paper type" adhesive on the rails to avoid slippage when mounted. I guess it is nice to have, but I have never had problems with carbon rails in the past.

Minor aesthetic details (see bottom pictures):

  • The Ryet K1 has a more pronounced "lip" on the edge all around.
  • The OdinZeus K1 seems, to me at least, to have a better finish overall, including the middle channel.
  • To me they look pretty similar, except for the rails. Not sure if they come from the same factory but probably from the same mold.

Price wise, last week I saw the Ryet K1 around 60 EUR while OdinZeus is around 66 EUR, both with discounts.

I think I will be keeping the OdinZeus, as the reviews of the cracked Ryet saddles on AliExpress do not inspire too much confidence (could the thinner rails have something to do?).

I will report back after putting some hundreds kilometers on it if it survives, fingers crossed!  ::)

Cheers!

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: chinese carbon saddles
« on: March 16, 2025, 04:33:54 AM »
Quick update (and PSA).

I finally bought the Ryet K1 instead of OdinZeus, just to compare with @aeroskiii feedback.

The weight is ~52.5 g, which is below the 58 g in the spec, great (?).

But the saddle rails are a full 1 mm smaller in both width and height (!) ::)

I measured  ~5.5 mm x 7.5 mm vs. the specified 6.5 mm x 8.5 mm.

This makes it impossible to use in any of my two road bikes, as both of my seat posts use 1 bolt type of clamp for oval carbon rails (7 mm x 9 mm) or regular 7 mm x 7 mm.

Probably same outcome even if the rails where on spec., but wanted to let you all know  ;)

Anyway, time to look for a round seat post with a 2 bolt type clamp, usual suspect is the Elita One 63D: this one clamps the rails from the top/bottom, so I hope it works for such undersized rails. The other seat post is (proprietary) aero shaped so I am out of luck for that one anyway  :'(

Cheers!

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: chinese carbon saddles
« on: March 05, 2025, 12:21:20 PM »
Quote from: jhearrtot on March 05, 2025, 09:11:28 AM
ah I'm eyeing the SQLab 612 as well. Good thing there's a bike shop here that can help ID the actual size before purchasing so that might be a better route for me then.

Thanks!

Sounds good!

You can always measure your sit bone distance at home to have an idea of the size you need.

Maybe you already know all this, if not, this is how I do it:

1. Put a towel on a hard surface, place a piece of tinfoil on top and sit down.

2. Then check the table in Step #3 in this page:

https://www.sq-lab.com/en/ergonomics/sit-bone-measurement-for-bike-saddles

3. Add the X cm that suits your riding position to the seat bone distance you measured, which will give you the width of the saddle you need.

Every saddle manufacturer tells you to add a different X amount, no consensus, so it is always better to try the saddle first or buy it somewhere where you can return it if it does not work for you  :)

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: chinese carbon saddles
« on: March 05, 2025, 02:00:01 AM »
Quote from: jhearrtot on March 04, 2025, 04:52:25 PM
It's been over a year now, and I still have a love-and-hate relationship with this saddle.
https://www.velobuildmall.com/products/pu-wrapped-carbon-fiber-much-more-comfortable

I love it because it doesn't make me go numb 'down there' while going more aero in position, but I hate it because it is too narrow for me (130mm).

I had a bike fit last Nov 2024 and fitted 3 saddles in my rotation (eagle beak 130mm, berk lupina and another saddle for indoor 150mm both), and the eagle beak causes less to no numbness at all.

It helps me spin faster and longer too compared to the other saddles I've used.

I was wondering if y'all know something similar but WIDER at 150mm. Otherwise, I think I will have to go with the original Selle SMP Well saddle.

I have not used anything similar to the eagle beak saddles and always < 130 mm, but the Berk seems to be a more "traditional" shape.

In that regard, I have a Selle Italia SLR Carbonio Flow in one of my bikes (not Super Flow,  this one is not manufactured anymore, difference being just a shorter channel). The discomfort starts around the ~4 hours mark.  Right now I am trying a SQLab 612 which works better on > 4 hours rides and it is manufactured in different widths, including 150mm. It is pricey though  :-\

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: chinese carbon saddles
« on: March 05, 2025, 01:46:32 AM »
Quote from: aeroskiii on March 04, 2025, 11:40:54 AM
Yup I use the gelu k1 clone. It has been perfect on my flight attendant Supercaliber which I race pretty technical UCI courses on. Great comfort and the durability has been better than the bontrager XXX saddle and much more comfy than the aelous RSL saddle. 5/5 reccomend

Thanks for your feedback! Glad to read it is holding up to abuse, especially on the MTB. Those pictures of cracked saddles on AliExpress were not so encouraging.

Which of the clones did you get, Ryet or OdinZeus? Not that it matters I guess, since they are both the same... just thinking about the warranty, just in case  ;D

Cheers!

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: chinese carbon saddles
« on: March 01, 2025, 08:59:51 AM »
Quote from: aeroskiii on December 12, 2023, 11:02:50 PM
anyone bought the gelu replicas from odin-zeus? 60g and they look seggsy

@aeroskiii, did you buy any of those?

I am looking for a weight weenie (narrow) full carbon saddle. Three candidates below.

It looks like the last two are replicas of the Gelu K1, while the first one is slightly longer:

TLO 65 saddle (120 x 260 mm, 75.7g, 76 EUR):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007543963047.html

Ryet K1 (122 x 242 mm, 58g, 87 EUR):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007436570770.html

OdinZeus K1 (122 x 242 mm, 57.5g, 109 EUR):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006376314421.html

Anyone have tried any of these?

Curious about the weight difference of the first one, while the Ryet and OdinZeus looks to be exactly the same thing except for an additional mark up on the latter.

Reviews of the Ryet are not that encouraging, as there are several cases with cracks after the first rides (see pictures). On the other hand, Ryet offers a 1 year warranty replacement which I do not know if any of you have ever used. No idea about the warranty of OdinZeus, as I have never bought from them either.

Cheers!




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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Two new Winspace frames coming (soon?)
« on: January 19, 2024, 01:28:30 AM »
Quote from: Velovelo on January 19, 2024, 12:57:09 AM
@stb sounds like a sales rep from Winspace lol

Far from it, I promise!  :D

Pure coincidence to be honest, I own a T1500 and wanted to check the geometry chart to compare my frame to another one I am interested.

Found out that they do not link to that frameset anymore but the URL can still be found with a quick search.

Then I saved a copy of the T1500 page for future reference and... ended up taking a snapshot of the entire website   ::)

Hours later on another visit I realized that they removed the page with the new frames and decided to share it here  ;)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Two new Winspace frames coming (soon?)
« on: January 18, 2024, 07:52:44 AM »
Edit: Updated information as this is now on their website.


Hi there!

I am new around here, so let's get started  8)

This morning I noticed that Winspace updated their site with some pictures of two new frames that are coming (soon?).

The URL is not accessible anymore but I managed to snatch all the pictures :) Judging by the name of the image files, "Player #1" seems to be their Agile model that I remember seeing somewhere [1] else before (looking closer, it is written in the chainstay too ::)). No idea about "Player #2" though.

Update: The page is online here. Agile model can be ordered already. Looks like the C5 cannot be ordered yet.

I copy the original text overlay that they had on each image. Thoughts?

PLAYER #1 Agile: Fusion of Lightness and Quickness


Merging stiffness and elegance: Crafted with Toray T800+T1000 carbon and featuring a unique curved design, this creation is both robust and gracefully refined.



Horizontal Angled T-tail: Striking a perfect balance between aerodynamics and riding comfort. Tire clearance supports up to 32mm.


Sealed Axle design: The sealed thru axle design ensures a seamless appearance while maximizing aerodynamic performance.


Tangible excellence in performance: Precision-tuned aggressive geometry pushes the limits of performance with nimble control and on-demand acceleration, enhanced by the lightweight advantage of a T47 bottom bracket.



PLAYER #2 C5: Built for Steadiness and Toughness


Firm and Steady: The one-piece molding process delivers toughness, while the unique geometric design with the max tyre clearance of 32mm ensures a more stable riding experience.


Twisted T-tail Design: The slight twist in the tail design boosts comfort by smoothing out bumps, letting you ride further with ease.


Sealed Axle design: The sealed thru axle design ensures a seamless appearance while maximizing aerodynamic performance.


LONGER CHAINSTAY LENGTH: The extended chainstay length and precisely adjusted trail value improve the bike’s handling and steadiness.


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