Author Topic: chinese carbon saddles  (Read 254195 times)

ediryppah

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #105 on: March 18, 2025, 01:55:25 PM »
No, the Aircode is insanely stiff. It was my first carbon saddle and I was expecting flexy, bendy carbon. What I got was a chunk of carbon fiber so stiff I would have thought it was a solid aluminum block. Still, I didn't find it uncomfortable. The shape of the Aircode is pretty good for me, honestly, but that nose is just too wide and the exposed carbon rim would occasionally get me if I didn't seat myself down on it just right.

I eventually bought a different Ryet carbon saddle with a more rounded edge (that is also covered with mesh and doesn't just leave exposed carbon) and has a MUCH thinner nose. Notably, the carbon is more like what I expected it to be, it's very flexy and bendy. Not nearly so stiff as the Aircode, not even close. I don't find it *quite* as comfortable as the Aircode, but it doesn't have those specific problems.
No what I meant is that the 3D printed upper is dramatically different in terms of how soft it is between these saddles. Both saddles are Aircodes, one is from early 2024 with plastic base and one is from late 2024 with carbon base.
I thought the upper would be consistent between the saddles, but it really is not. I kind of wish I had a durometer so I could prove it.

glepore

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #106 on: March 18, 2025, 04:38:44 PM »
No what I meant is that the 3D printed upper is dramatically different in terms of how soft it is between these saddles. Both saddles are Aircodes, one is from early 2024 with plastic base and one is from late 2024 with carbon base.
I thought the upper would be consistent between the saddles, but it really is not. I kind of wish I had a durometer so I could prove it.

Interesting. I have 2 Aircodes, one that I bought early, as soon as they became available, and one that I bought more recently. I thought the newer one was slightly flatter and stiffer, and this thread made me go examine them. There is a significant difference in the 3d mesh, the older one has mesh with empty openings whereas the later saddle has mesh with a reinforcement X in the center of the openings. The later saddle is much firmer if you push on it, and also thinner. I believe altho I've not measured that its closer to a 140 Stealth and the older one is more of a 150ish. So they changed the mesh, and it appears they have evolved it again with the T40

Biscaye05

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #107 on: March 19, 2025, 12:33:03 PM »
FWIW I just bought my first RYET saddle

It’s a Specialized Romin Evo Pro copy. The original Romin Evo worked for me many moons ago and somehow transferred to Prologo Dimensions for quite a while. I found that these flat saddle cause a lot of chaffing on my groin area that I can’t ride my bike for days

I’m on a Selle Italia copy atm and my groin area has never felt better for a while. Can’t wait to try on the RYET

Zoidberg_427

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2025, 10:42:34 AM »
Velobuild is stopped selling smp clones so is there any cheap alternatives? Or do i have to buy smp well saddle

stb

Ryet K1 vs. OdinZeus K1
« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2025, 01:56:48 PM »
This is a follow up of my previous findings:

https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,776.msg76850.html#msg76850

I bought the Elita One 63D seat post and the OdinZeus K1 saddle so I could compare both (vs. Ryet K1) more closely and just keep one of them.

First, some measurements:

Ryet K1OdinZeus K1
Weight52.5 g57.9 g
Rail to Rail37.89 mm36 mm
Rail Height7.46 mm8.85 mm
Rail Width5.49 mm6.62 mm

Now, my observations:

  • Although Ryet claims the rail dimensions to be as the original Gelu K1, they are 1 mm smaller in both width and height.
  • Both saddles can be used on the Elita One seat post. However, the Ryet K1 cannot be used on 1 bolt style clamps due to the smaller diameter of its rails. I confirmed with OdinZeus' seller the diameter of their saddle rails, to which they said 7 mm x 9 mm. As can be seen on the pictures, close enough.
  • OdinZeus rail-to-rail does not seat completely flat on the bottom plate of the seat clamp (not a problem on the 1 bolt clamp). Ryet K1 seems to fit better. In both cases, the bolts were just finger tight.
  • Ryet K1 has "sand paper type" adhesive on the rails to avoid slippage when mounted. I guess it is nice to have, but I have never had problems with carbon rails in the past.

Minor aesthetic details (see bottom pictures):

  • The Ryet K1 has a more pronounced "lip" on the edge all around.
  • The OdinZeus K1 seems, to me at least, to have a better finish overall, including the middle channel.
  • To me they look pretty similar, except for the rails. Not sure if they come from the same factory but probably from the same mold.

Price wise, last week I saw the Ryet K1 around 60 EUR while OdinZeus is around 66 EUR, both with discounts.

I think I will be keeping the OdinZeus, as the reviews of the cracked Ryet saddles on AliExpress do not inspire too much confidence (could the thinner rails have something to do?).

I will report back after putting some hundreds kilometers on it if it survives, fingers crossed!  ::)

Cheers!
« Last Edit: March 26, 2025, 02:18:08 PM by stb »

stb

Ryet K1 vs. OdinZeus K1 (cotinued)
« Reply #110 on: March 26, 2025, 01:59:04 PM »
More pictures!
« Last Edit: March 26, 2025, 02:10:58 PM by stb »

raisinberry777

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #111 on: March 28, 2025, 06:06:17 AM »
The new T40A mesh on the Arcode is a big improvement in my opinion. I have that saddle on my gravel bike and it almost feels invisible on my butt. I would update my other Arcode saddles as well, but I'm trying not to buy more stuff. It really comes down to your riding style.  ;)

Just had one of these Ryet Aircode T40A saddles arrive today - first impressions seem pretty good - look forward to testing over the next few weeks.

Zoidberg_427

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #112 on: April 06, 2025, 06:27:03 AM »
Velobuild is stopped selling smp clones so is there any cheap alternatives? Or do i have to buy smp well saddle

I found this one. https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005008391335012.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.7e911802WCYBnP&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

Surprisingly comfortable. I have tested on a trainer couple (~60min) of rides whithout padded shorts and no issues.

dmc

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #113 on: April 15, 2025, 04:42:36 AM »
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been answered before.  New here and have trawled the threads to find the answer, without success.  And the reviews on AliExpress aren’t clear

Does anyone know the nearest lightweight & reasonably-priced saddles that are similar to the Selle Italia SLR Superflow Boost (130mm) and the Specialized Power (143mm) saddles?  Not looking for counterfeit, just similar shapes / dimensions.

Trying to trim my bike’s weight down and already have those saddles (which work for me, fit-wise).

Thanks


edy

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #114 on: April 15, 2025, 09:05:11 AM »
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been answered before.  New here and have trawled the threads to find the answer, without success.  And the reviews on AliExpress aren’t clear

Does anyone know the nearest lightweight & reasonably-priced saddles that are similar to the Selle Italia SLR Superflow Boost (130mm) and the Specialized Power (143mm) saddles?  Not looking for counterfeit, just similar shapes / dimensions.

Trying to trim my bike’s weight down and already have those saddles (which work for me, fit-wise).

Thanks

I'm curious on this one (in particular for Superflow Boost in 130 mm) as well, as it is getting a lot of praise from fitters online.

I'm currently running a Kocevlo saddle (https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005006059397000.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.33.1f92lZLulZLuDq&algo_pvid=49d5a97c-6451-4765-aeb5-d5197f9944e9&algo_exp_id=49d5a97c-6451-4765-aeb5-d5197f9944e9-16&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22164%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2144.82%2120.17%21%21%21362.65%21163.19%21%40211b628117447256297682692ef078%2112000035545249488%21sea%21SI%21172706680%21X&curPageLogUid=J4Q1ZkIYXvmj&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A). I find the saddle itself comfortable, did not experience any issues even on longer (6h+) rides, apart from the saddle taking a smaller toll on my bibs. The main issue I have with this particular saddle is a recent creaking noise. I am currently running a LightCarbon LCR-017 proprietary seat post which has a 1-bolt system I am not a biggest fan of. According to the Kocevlo, this saddle is not compatible with a 1-bolt seat posts which just might be the reason behind the creaking sounds. Anyone else experiencing the same problem with this combo (1-bolt seat post & similair carbon saddle)?

carbonazza

Re: Ryet K1 vs. OdinZeus K1
« Reply #115 on: April 17, 2025, 06:14:19 AM »
...Price wise, last week I saw the Ryet K1 around 60 EUR while OdinZeus is around 66 EUR, both with discounts...

I just saw it today, but more around 100€ which is hard for me to swallow
When you say discounts, how did you get them ?

timtomtam3

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2025, 01:54:41 PM »
Has anyone tried this Elita One SLR replica saddle? Does the 3D padding have differentiated densities or is it uniform across the entire saddle?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007872984639.html

or the RT04 made by Ryet?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006265519137.html
« Last Edit: April 17, 2025, 02:09:09 PM by timtomtam3 »

Daviddavieboy

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2025, 02:17:53 PM »
I'm curious on this one (in particular for Superflow Boost in 130 mm) as well, as it is getting a lot of praise from fitters online.

I'm currently running a Kocevlo saddle I find the saddle itself comfortable, did not experience any issues even on longer (6h+) rides, apart from the saddle taking a smaller toll on my bibs. The main issue I have with this particular saddle is a recent creaking noise.

 You are in good company then. I have a genuine Superflow SLR saddles and it creaks. Drives me batty plus they are not that comfortable for me. My 15 year old Prologo scratch pro is still the best I have found.
I have a hope until someone can prove otherwise.

kubackje

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2025, 02:51:15 PM »
Has anyone tried this Elita One SLR replica saddle? Does the 3D padding have differentiated densities or is it uniform across the entire saddle?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007872984639.html

or the RT04 made by Ryet?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006265519137.html

Why Chinese guys only make those saddle in wide versions? I need some good 130-135mm saddles

Da11as

Re: chinese carbon saddles
« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2025, 06:57:46 AM »
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been answered before.  New here and have trawled the threads to find the answer, without success.  And the reviews on AliExpress aren’t clear

Does anyone know the nearest lightweight & reasonably-priced saddles that are similar to the Selle Italia SLR Superflow Boost (130mm) and the Specialized Power (143mm) saddles?  Not looking for counterfeit, just similar shapes / dimensions.

Trying to trim my bike’s weight down and already have those saddles (which work for me, fit-wise).

Thanks
Same here. I am looking for a relatively long flat surface narrow (~130 mm) saddle. I broke 2 out of 3 of my beloved Pro Falcon's and looking for a replacement. SLR Superflow got my attention because of super wide channel which I did not see that often on neutral saddles. All of Alix copies and replicas are 140mm wide which does not suite me.