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Seems to me like the Di2 cable clip from your RD.

Thanks, you’re right. The clip slides in but doesn’t seem be held in place - it feels like it can fall off pretty easily, or am I doing it wrong?

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Dumb question incoming: does anyone know what the heck this is?

I was cleaning my drive train, specifically the cassette, when this plastic thing fell off. (At first I thought it was a huge piece of gunk lol.) Is it part of the rear derailleur or something?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 30, 2025, 06:24:26 PM »
You got charged for it, so yes! did you get / pay for the sock that goes into the down tube? Having ridden quite a bit my 268, i'd say, consider ordering an extra set of headset bearings, for eg (these fully integrated bikes have much worse weather proofing of the top bearing than old school full external stuff with a big nice tight lip over the bearing). that way they still sell you something as they fix their mistake, it's less of a net loss to them.

But, but, I need a reason to upgrade my TA!  Lol i think the reason all of us are on this forum and talking about Chinese bike and bits is that we are for better or worse endlessly tinkering. So give me my excuse to tinker with something that might give me like .005g of weight saving!

I got the storage sock for free, they gave it to me when they were late in delivering the frame.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 29, 2025, 08:39:07 PM »
Thanks,
That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. It seems like I'll probably be okay with the 52 then. What length of stem did you go with?

This frame seems to fit the bill for what I'm looking for. Also Alisa said that the thru axle issue has been completely solved as soon as someone brought it up.

I don’t have a slammed cockpit (just thinking about that makes my back and shoulders ache…), with about 4mm drop from my saddle to stem. I have a 100mm stem, 110mm would have been fine too. I think with my size, the 52 is just right. With a 50, I suspect I might be a bit too far forward in terms of weight distribution.

I should ask Alisa to send me the right through axle!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 29, 2025, 07:31:42 AM »
Has anybody put a powermeter on this frame?

I am trying to figure out if the Magene 505 would work or something else.

I don't think the Magene works with the T47 bottom bracket - I asked Magene previously and they said no. I have a 4iiii 3+ on mine.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 29, 2025, 07:18:54 AM »
I was curious if we could get any ride reports from the members who built up the frame?
I'm heavily considering getting this frame in the near future and was just wondering how it felt ok the road and if anyone could compare it to any other mainstream bikes they've ridden?

Also how offset is the seatpost that it comes with. I've been trying to figure out what size frame to buy. With the offset post I'm leaning towards 50/52. I am 170cm tall with a 79cm inseam?

I'll share some impressions. I'm only at around 500km logged on the bike and I'm comparing this to my previous bike, which is an older 2013 Scott CR1 Pro, so take this FWIW.

- Handling is neutral, as you'd expect from its geometry. It's not a twitchy race or crit bike, but it's responsive enough and confident through corners and on twisty descents. This is something I appreciate, coming from my jittery Scott.

- Ride quality is pretty compliant. I can feel the road but much less of the impact vs. my Scott, if that makes any sense. I have 32mm tires (on wheels with steel - not carbon - spokes) so I'm sure that contributes to the ride quality.

- It's pretty fast. Compared to my Scott, I average 1 - 1.5 km/h faster on my endurance rides. I haven't done too many high intensity efforts but I expect the aero qualities to shine through even more when I do.  I don't know if this is just about the frame from an aero perspective: I put on narrower 38cm bars and 45mm wheels, so it's probably the overall package.

- I took the bike on a local climb that averages ~7.5%, where aerodynamics don't come into play, and set a PB (even though I've done mostly base miles recently). This bike is pretty close in weight to my Scott, so it wasn't about weight savings. On steeper climbs, it's more about power and rolling resistance. Frame stiffness (and that ginormous T47 BB) probably helps with more efficient power application, and my new-ish GP5000 with TPU tubes contribute on the rolling resistance front. So the whole bike probably contributes to added speed on climbs, not just the frame.

- Acceleration is pretty good. I mentioned before that on my first few rides through traffic, I had to soft pedal a few times when I found myself getting up to speed a bit quicker than what I was used to.

So, overall, I think the ride is pretty much the all-arounder that it's billed as. I've been pretty happy with it. I haven't ridden other Chinese frames or more modern big brand frames to make those comparisons, but I think what Peak Torque said in one of his videos is probably right: once you get these Chinese frames built up, it's hard to tell them apart.

The seat post offset is around 20mm but you can ask LT to confirm.

I'm 174cm with 78cm inseam and got the 52, which fits me pretty well. I almost got the 50 because I was also a bit worried about the seat post offset impact on reach, but the 52 worked out well for me with the narrower bars helping to reduce the reach a bit to fit me.

Hope this helps!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 08, 2025, 07:05:05 PM »
Axle is too long or threads are too short. I would prefer this length axle with longer threading. Based on your measurements there is 6mm space before it protrudes on the drive side.

You should use as thin spacer as possible. With optimum thickness spacer you will be using all 15mm of the threads. 10mm too thick and it will engage only 5mm of the threads. At 15mm too thick the axle won't thread in at all. Someone more proficient with properties of materials is the one who to ask what is the minimum safe threading.

I've also been exchanging emails/pics/videos with Robert Axle Project, and this is their opinion (quoting their email) - it appears to be a multi-faceted issue:

• The axle appears to be bottoming out in the derailleur hanger, so it is too long.
• It looks like the frame is meant to be Universal Derailleur Hanger compatible, but the hanger and axle in the frame are not compliant with UDH standards - they use P1.5 thread instead of P1.0. If you replace the rear axle with another P1.5 axle, it will not be compatible with a real UDH down the road.
• The head of the axle appears to be in a recess on the non-drive side, and will require about ~2mm of spacers to work with the frame. We sell a 12x19x3mm flat spacer on our website that can take up the slack on the axle.
• If you want a shorter axle to replace your stock axle so that you do not need a spacer, we recommend LIG629
• If you want a UDH compatible rear axle and a standard UDH, we recommend LIG603 and our Universal Derailleur Hanger

I shared this feedback with Longteng, asking them to source the right TA and UDH.

My plan is to try the spacer first, and then probably replace the rear TA (good excuse to upgrade!).

Anyway, thanks for all the feedback, hope this also helps anyone considering this frame.

[Edit: when I told Alisa about this, she said they did have problems with the rear TA in the first batch of bikes and have replaced their supply. So for anyone getting this frame, you should make sure they have the right TA. Or just source a true UDH and axles yourself. And, I got some M12 spacers (20 outer diameter, 12 inner diameter) and they fit perfectly and mitigated the wobble. I tried 2 1mm spacers but this induced some brake rub against the disc, so I ended up using just 1 1mm spacer which also does the job. I’ll replace the rear TA eventually.]

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 08, 2025, 07:16:46 AM »
This thru axle gives 3mm more capacity. It fits if you trust 2mm is enough.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007535904782.html

Is the problem that the thru axle is too long? Or is the problem that the threaded part is too short?  If I use the washer/spacer as LT advised, does this create any potential issues for rider safety or frame integrity?  Thanks for your patience on this :).

@kwantani I believe it's a standard "M2" washer with 20mm outer diameter and 12mm inner diameter. I called around and one LBS has it, I'm also going to check some hardware stores. I'll give this a try and see what happens, but if the thru axle is the root issue, the washer is a temporary solution until I replace the thru axle.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 07, 2025, 11:40:33 PM »
Can you try this?

1) Take photo from the drive side of the frame. Measure how far the through axle is from being flush to the nut / how far in the TA is.
2) Repeat without wheel but thread the axle all the way in. If there is no difference you can be sure the through axle is just wrong size.

In any case you could measure the through axle dimensions. Length from the base to the end. And length of threaded area.

Thanks for this. I did some measurements:

1. When fully tightened to 10NM with the wheel on, the through axle is not flush to the end of the nut/cap on the drive side. It's about 6mm short of flush. When I removed the wheel and inserted the through axle, it's around the same 6mm short of flush.

2. I took measurements of the through axle and the rear drop out area.

Does this help to diagnose the problem?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 07, 2025, 03:16:54 AM »
Looks like the axle does not thread in enough, guessing the spacer would solve it.
But you can find out yourself easily, what happens if you insert another set of wheels?
Any bearing play in the wheelset (maybe test on another bike)?

I only have this bike and wheelset :( 

I do plan to try the washer. I’ve read elsewhere that others have the same problem, hope this solves it.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: January 07, 2025, 12:44:32 AM »
I mentioned that my rear wheel has a bit of wobble and I couldn't figure out why. Attached is a video of the wobble. After pinging both Elitewheels and Longteng, each had different responses:

1. Elitewheels says it might be an issue in their rear hub assembly and sent me a set of new bearings.

2. Longteng says it might a case of the rear through axle being slightly too long. They suggested adding a spacer/washer to the rear drop out per the attached instructions.

I'm hoping to tap into this forum's expertise here: which is likelier to be the root cause? If it's the rear hub, then Longteng gets a pass (and I'll take the rear wheel to the LBS to get this sorted). If it's the rear through axle, then it's disappointing that a frame manufacturer got this wrong (and I'll either add the washer/spacer or maybe upgrade my through axles).

Thanks in advance.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: December 09, 2024, 10:18:39 PM »
This frame is super intriguing but I'm struggling with the Trek headtube lol. Does the frame look... good/fast in person? I know it's subjective, but does it pass the vibe check? Also is there a tangible ridge down the center of the seatpost?

Yes there is a ridge down the seat post.

As far as looks, yeah this is completely subjective but here is my completely subjective take: it does look "fast" because of its aero profile which is the same/similar profile of just about any other aero optimized frame: over-sized tubes, dropped seat stays, sloping top tube and an exposed aero seat post, and especially if you go for an integrated cockpit with narrow bars, disc brakes and deeper rims.  But does it look "good"?  I'm less of a fan of the kitchen counter-top wide downtube, and am more into more classic looking frames with reasonably sized oval tubes. So that's why my next project is probably going to be something more Crux and Aethos like, or maybe even a Chinese Ti frame.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: November 23, 2024, 09:18:12 AM »
I checked the video, and it seems like the closure system holds the cover with magnatic force only, without any mechanical closing part.

I also somewhat worried about that is this cover can hold the position with water filled bidon...

I really hope it have some kind of mechanical lock system...
There is a clasp, in addition to the magnet. But the clasp is not well designed and doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence.  Like I said, it takes some fiddling and pushing and pressing to make sure the cover is closed securely.  I’ve also found that if you stuff the storage with too much stuff, to the point where the internal sock presses up against the cover, the closure gets more finicky.

This is something that Longteng can easily fix with a better closure system, and would be disappointing if they don’t TBH.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: November 13, 2024, 10:14:10 AM »
for my cover, there's nothing need to be "aligned", the cover closed and locked snugly. Just with bare hand I can lift the cover so easily. Mostly likely the whole piece will fell off easily over a bump. Currently I'm tying a velcro strap over the downtube to strap it down just with a piece of mine.

UPDATE: Long Teng now blamed the excessive paint on the edge of the cover  and downtube that prevent the cover to be locked securely, want me to use a rasp to grind off the excessive paint on the edge along the cover and the downtube opening  >:(

Well, here is how mine looks: https://youtu.be/eT8vtAXO97c?si=5btSdcJY2rwItIvu (internal storage updates at 7:15). It's not a big issue for me, fortunately.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« on: November 09, 2024, 11:46:32 PM »
New defect found on my Long Teng. The downtube storage cover is on the locked position, i.e. the latch is pushed down flat. Still I'm able to pull out the cover easily while in locked position.

This is scary when you hit a bump the whole cover will fly off!

I like this bike so much especially the ride and geometry. Just disappointed with this defective design.

See video
Mine is also tricky to close. I have to make sure it's aligned, then I push down at the top and bottom, and double check that it's locked. For me, once it's properly in locked position, it doesn't come loose. I went for several rides with a sock of tubes/tools in the storage area, with full bottles, and had no issues.

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