Ok thanks I'll try your strat, and report

about the mavic speed release, I bough one extra Real mavic speed release (with the torque lever thing) to get an extra one , and they are so much better than the normal one.
Its a bit sad that velobuild went for those speed release if they don't provide the "real" one, but I understand it's a money reason

A good reason to have the Mavic SR without the lever is aerodynamics. Also many road mechanics will use a power wrench that is impossible to use with the one you like.

Personally I like the one that came with the frame and I carry a (5-6mm S wrench in my seat bag). I had 2 pair of wheels so I order a second set from VB that also came with a derailleur hanger.

I love the Mavic SR but it takes few times to become familiar with.

I love the VB-R-268 and I am riding it every day in all terrains. What a beauty!

Q1: Max Tire Size?
Q2: Inner width of the new wheel?

I know VB recommendations are for 25-32 mm tire sizes.  Has any of you tried a 35 mm tire? I'm planning to get another set of wheel which I can get with 23 or 25 mm inner width.

I already have a set of wheels with 23 inner width and running 28 mm tires so my goal would be to have a second pair of wheel with wider tires to use on some rough gravel. I would appreciate if you help me in both questions. Even if VB will not accept a 35 mm tires should I get a wheel with 25mm inner width?

Thank you very much all!

Yes they look like the ones in the last photo on the page below and come in a few different sizes so you can use one or combine them.
https://www.velobuild.com/products/carbon-fiber-road-bike-integrated-handlebar-with-spacers-for-hidden-cables-routing

Also, they are of excellent quality made from aluminum.

The new frame VR-R-268 is a product of the present trend in pro bike racing.

So here few points.

#1. Aerodynamics is the major element that pro racer looks for. The pro riders know their CdA and how to decrease it.
The more aero you are the faster you go for the same power.

#2 CdA is the quantitative measurement of aerodynamic drag.  The "A" is the frontal area of both the rider and the bike presented to the wind in the direction you travel. You can decrease the  "riders part" of the A by being on the drops instead of seating up. VB has paid a lot of attention to this part.

#3 Cd is the coefficient of drag. For example if you place a flat disk in a wind tunnel and make the A=1 the surface area will be 1 but the force the wind actually exert on the disk is a little higher let's say 1.15. So the CdA will be 1 x 1.15= 1.15. Now instead of flat disk, place cone with the tip forward and a front area the same A=1, but now the coefficient of drag will be far lower so the total CdA will be far lower (that is the reason why bullets for example are not flat at the front). Here VB has done a superb job in decreasing the Cd.

#4 VB aerobike like  the VR-R-268 is aimed at decreasing the Cd even if in some cases you may have a little weight penalty. Lower seat stays with a flat top, aero seat-post, kamm tail the downtube and a very nice combination of the seat-tube and rear wheel-tires to make the air flow smooth. The seat-post in the present bikes is more exposed comparing with years past so an aero seat-post is a must. VB has done a great job here.

5. The rider also has a "A" and "Cd". The "A" is obvious the more down the rider is the smaller the "A" but the "Cd" is not as clear, racer used to adopt the "puppy paws" position (which now is ban)etc.  The point here is that the position on the bike has changed and VB has done everything possible to allow this change. The seat is more forward as much as you can without braking the UCI rules "The tip of the saddle shall be a minimum of 50 mm to the rear of a vertical plane passing through the bottom bracket spindle." This forward position allow to open the leg body angle so you do not hit your body when you pedal. VB zero-offset seat-post goes along with this trend. Also rider use short saddles to go around this rule.

6. Along with #5 the back is flat and when racers place hand on the hood but keep the forearms flat (the most aero position) it is important than the angle between arms and forearms is 90 degrees or less so the distance between between brake hood and saddle is smaller than in the past, so you want a short top tube. To accomplish this aspect, pro racers are choosing smaller bikes than before. VB has a small frame and a 9 cm stem as the smallest. VB is ok here, even it could have offered an 8cm stem.

7. Components are also part of this trend. Cranks are shorter that were in the past, for example Tadej (176 cm) is using a 165 mm crank, Filippo Ganna (193 cm) iirc use a 170 crank for the hour record, MVP (184 cm) is in 172.5. The smaller cranks offer aero advantage, and also you are working in the area where mechanically you are stronger. Of course you need gears that you can spin. VB is compatible with all the component manufactures.

6. In pro racing mixing areas with good asphalt with unpaved or gravel road are becoming very common. Having a frame that accepts different width tires is important so you do not need to have a different bike for each terrain. VB has done a great job here allowing as to use tires up to 32. Many other frame manufactures have aero bike but basically designed around the 28 mm now standard in road racing. With this VB frame you can have 2 sets of wheels like a road with 28mm tire and wider rim wheel with a 32 mm gravel tire and if you want to do some rough single track gravel you just change the wheel.

7. Aerodynamics are important in flat terrain but also during climbing when you have a head wind, or the grade is not very steep, having you body down help, you can feel it on your legs and also if you have the correct setup, you may see the CdA not increasing. Few of the pro's climb with the forearm flat on the top of the handlebar.

7. The only part the VB has not touch for aerodynamics is the flared handlebars. The UCI set also rules there and a small flare would be OK. This rules changed in Jan 2024 included the brake levers angles and it may change again.

In summary VB offers a high quality frame with almost all the features that are trending in pro racing, before I got it I look around and I could not find one that I could place a check mark in each of the features I wanted with the exception of VB-R 264.

I have been trying to explain why the the VB-R-268 is my choice. VB has many frames with different features and for many of us may be better. I have more than a month since I start to ride, which I do everyday, in different terrains, with a 28 tire you can do most of the gravel. Sometime next year I will get a "gravel" wheel to do single track.

Chris has been great with fast replies to all my questions, so to have a good online service is also important part of the frame. I am very happy with this bike.

Note: I got and extra seat-post and seat-post clamp when I placed the order for the frame, I like to have them as spare and the price was very reasonable.  The seat-post seem very solid and very nicely made so most likely I will never need them.

What is everyone using for their Varia mount on this frame. The Garmin mount is too small for the seat tube.

Look at the pic of the previous message, the Varia Radar vount works great on the seatpost but you have to use the one with the rubber straps, you can not use the rigid mount.

That's amazing, love the fact you put a sram red group on a VB frame
Are the campagnolo wheels legit or copies?
you'll have to tell us how the bike rides compared to other bikes you've ridden. I suspect that if you're rocking sram red & Bora wheels, you know a thing or 2 about bikes.

Serge, yes the Campagnolo WTO are legits, imho are the best wheels in the market with the exception of the BoraWTO Ultra. Of course they are hooked rims. Despite of 45mm + 28 tire you barely feel the side winds.
I did many changes with this frame: 1. I choose a small frame (and a seat post with zero offset)  so it will allow me to be more aero, you will see some extra spacers but I can have my forearms flat (horizontal) when my hands are on hoods and my upper arms are 90 degrees with the forearms. 2. Also the present trends is for shorter cranks, so I have 160 mm which has many benefits.
How the VB rides? I love the ride, it climbs very well in part because is light, sprinting with hands on the drops it follow you, but the most important is descending where you can take hairpin corners at good speed, push down the handlebars and bikes respond as the best one, so you can shorten the radius or curvature in the middle of the corner. In summa love the frame, VB had done a superb job.

How do people like the Mavic speed release and wheel compatibility?

I like them. The following is from the Mavic Site"

"The Speed Release axle technology makes the use of thru axle faster, easier and safer.
In only 4 turns, it is screwed and unscrewed.
When removing the wheel from the frame, it doesn't need to be taken out from the hub. It stays on the wheel and you don't need an extra hand to hold it while manipulating the frame or the wheel. No risk of forgetting it on the parking lot.
It's integrated torque management system makes sure it is always perfectly tighten.
At last, at only 40g front and 45g rear, it is also one of the lightest thru axle on the market, with an integrated lever.
Only compatible with Speed Release compatible frames and forks (Lapierre, Orbea, Cannondale, Wilier, Origine, Enve, Votec, Airstreeem, Caminade, Victoire...)"