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Messages - lkbfreak

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I use Merlin CDR-2 wheelset but I guess the difference is in the spokes. And what 100 € wheels you're talking about? Off course carbon spokes are stiffer but everything depends on lacing and tensioning.

What kind of wheels did you had previous to using the Tagoola DAO50s? Interesting that you say that they are stiffer, do you have carbon spokes on the 100 euro wheels or also steel? for me the Carbon spoke wheels are stiffer than the Tagoola. Also with the same power output, only not the same speed.

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Yesterday I took wheels for a proper ride, bit of a climbing, some flats and a long descends, all in a winds with gusts up to 80 km/h. Wheels are definitely on the stiff side, my bike is already very stiff so I felt a difference compared to my previous carbon wheels. Road chatter is easily picked up and you can feel it on your hands, especially on the hoods, but not that much in the drops. Sidewinds do affect the wheels but not that much and this is what I really cannot fully confirm. I felt few wind pushes from the side but mostly the wheels are balanced and stable. On the flats they roll nicely and I was able to hold my power around 350W and maintain a speed of 45 km/h with compact crankset (34/50). During the descends wheels are nice and they are not twitchy.

I am not a pro rider and I didn't tested a ton of other wheels but I can say they are worth the money and they are upgrade over my 1000 EUR wheels. A bit on the stiff side but that could be good thing. No problems so far and I also backordered a few spare spokes from Matter.

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An update on DAO Wave50 wheelset

Just received them 3 days ago and they came packet securely in the box, each wheel in the separate bag and with an extras bag (build report, spoke tension report, keyring). The box came a bit crumpled but the wheels were intact.

Out of box they looked nicely done and soooo light compared to my Merlin CDR-2 50/40 carbon set. Aesthetically they look nice and almost premium with brushed silver decals which are simple.

Hubs look good, DT SW looking internals with ratchet system, everything well made and hopefully interchangeable with DT parts. I went with CNAero416 spokes. Rims are on spot 30 mm wide with 23 mm internal width, pre-taped with what looks like Orange Seal rim tape and with tubeless valves installed. Total weight without valves is 1450 g for a set which falls into claimed 1380 g +/-5%.

Getting the GP 5000 tires went fine with only hands and they popped out nicely with a regular floor pump around 5 bars. I sue RideNow TPU's cuz I don't like tubeless mess. Wheels are paired aslo with Ultegra 160 mm rotors.

First (short) ride - they are on a stiffer side and roll nicely but I need to test them in the crosswinds and on climbs and descends. The hub sound is nice and not too loud and there's no sticking of the freehub while coasting etc. Need more testing but the weather here is poor so I'll report back later.

Wish only they came with a few extra spokes.

Communication with the seller was superb and nicest exeperience I had buying stuff online! Recommended.

Cheers

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Just received my wheelset yesterday... they look and feel fantastic!

Ordered Wave50 set with CNAero 416 spokes and upgraded (10 g heavier but sturdier hubs). Wheels came well packed and protected, the box was a bit crumbled during the transport but the set was undamaged and fine in the box. They came with preinstalled rim tape and tubeless valves and with a spoke tension certificate (will check with a tool and report).

Hubs are DT SW style so hopefully they'll be easy to service. By the first feel, they spin nicely and look aesthetically pleasing but I need to test them. Will install Conti GP5000 32 mm and Ultegra 160 mm rotors and see how they ride.

Total weight is 1450 g for both wheels without valves (I use TPU tubes) so it's in the +/-5 % of claimed weight of 1380 g. Just wish the spare spokes were included with the set.

Communication with the seller was fantastic and shipping took from April 27th to May 19th by DPD so less than a month.

Let's see how they ride and I will report back.

Cheers!

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Has anyone found matching direct derailleur hanger for Model S disc frame? I tried Colnago's but no go...

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I think clincher simply means you have to put rim tape on the rim bed whereas for tubeless you don't have to use rim tape? I do agree they don't make it clear that its hookless (it is mentioned somewhere in an image as a sidenote). That is an important factor and should be clear in the title.

No! Clicher means that there is a hook in the rim bed that holds (clinches) the tire so it doesn't slip over the rim wall. I have clincher rims without need to put tape because they have no nipple holes.
For tubeless rims with nipple holes you must put the tape.

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Just stay away from hookless cuz they are short term fashion and they aren't safe. Even pro's are abandoning them.

Official response from the TAGOOLA team:

Thank you for your thoughtful feedback and attention to TAGOOLA wheels! As an emerging brand, we attach great importance to the experience and insights of every rider.

About product specifications: Our current focus is to optimize the Mini-Hook and Hookless series to make them more suitable for mainstream riding scenarios. We are refining product specifications, enhancing parameter descriptions, and will announce all details in the upcoming brand upgrade.

As a completely independent brand, TAGOOLA's decisions are rooted in the real needs of cyclists. We are committed to providing high-performance carbon fiber wheels at a competitive price-excellent engineering design should not come at the cost of a high price.

We apologize for any ambiguity in the product documentation. Our team is comprehensively improving the information architecture and content logic of all platforms. The upgraded interface and technical guide will be online within 14 days. Your feedback has been prioritized in our optimization process-this is a valuable driving force for our development.

Your vigilance inspires us. For technical consultation, please contact our engineering team directly at [matter@tangoola.cn]. Together, we will redefine the infinite possibilities of two-wheeled vehicles.

TAGOOLA Concept
“Peak forging, infinite possibilities”

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I never seen a set of DAO 50 wave with 23mm internal on Ali...

I ordered it directly via Whatsapp communication and paid by PayPal so they are custom made thus you can't find them listed on the AliExpress.

Here are the details of the rims


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Hi,
what do you mean by upgraded hubs?

Thanks

Slightly modified hubs with better materials and better bearings (TTN bearings). This is a new model.

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Just ordered a set of DAO Bridge50 wave wheels with upgraded hubs, CNaero 416 spokes, 23 mm rim width, laser silver logo and ShimanoHG! Incredible value for the specs and hopefully they'll roll nicely.

Ordering process was great and @Matter helped a lot with customization. Can't wait to receive them and try them.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: December 07, 2024, 12:43:15 PM »
Here's my bike build with the Hygge 2024 EPS frame. Paint is obviously custom and I give them high marks for a quality job. They said they'd send me a new, shorter bearing for the issue with the headset gap I mentioned earlier in this thread.  Besides the frame, the crankset and BB is also Chinese, a Ryet and Kactus, respectively. Tires are 30mm front and 32mm rear (as measured) and easily clear, though rear is probably at max width.



I like the name connection with Don Quijote's horse. ;) Wish you a many miles on it!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: November 29, 2024, 12:12:27 PM »
I dont know where you are finding a LBS that can identify carbon defects. I bet I could walk into any one of my LBS and no one in the place would have ever heard the word delamination. I went to the LBS closest to me once and asked if they had brake pads fit for a regular shimano road caliper and they took me to their mechanics, and I asked again and they all looked at me with pure confusion.

Well, my local bike shop has two mechanics in each shift and they are dealing with different tiers of bikes - from kids bikes to those that are used in official races so I trust in their knowledge and experience. And if they don't know something they always try to get the information from other sources or from distributors. If you want your customers to be happy and satisfied then you need to go an extra mile. Bikes are expensive nowadays and servicing them is getting more and more complicated so the LBS's need to learn and adapt.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: November 29, 2024, 03:15:34 AM »
Already contact them.. they say it's safe and if anything happens there's 2 years warranty... Wtf is this?!

https://youtube.com/shorts/p_-xBr9Zvko?si=iO_lBYCkMT8sn2Ac

If anything happens you'll end up in a hospital!  ;D Then the warranty is worth nothing. If they claim that it's safe to use it, I would suggest you to take the frame to your local bike shop and ask a mechanic to evaluate it. Even better if you have a carbon expert somewhere in your area. This is kind of delamination or bubbling and may or may not have impact on the frame. Seems it's right where the top tube merges with steerer tube and looks like some kind of resin bubbling or similar or like someone broke it. Maybe this happened while removing EPS liner...

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: November 29, 2024, 01:34:58 AM »
Hi guys.

I've received my frame and quality control seems not the best...
Would you accept this?







Got me worried..

Yep, looks like a big one - contact Hygge and ask for replacement.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: November 27, 2024, 02:02:20 PM »
It's hard to imagine the headset cover going any lower. Seriously, I've tried to get it lower! Plus, Henry's videos show the headset cover nearly flush with the frame before the handlebar cover is placed and tightened down to compress the assembly. Possibly it could happen but here I run into a possible LBS mistake. It seems they cut the steerer tube so that it is exactly flush with the top of the handlebars, whilst most everything I've seen shows the top of the steerer tube about 3mm below. This is with the maximum number of spacers so I can't add any in order to raise the bars. Did they mess up?



Confirmed the bearer ring is at the bottom of the fork steerer.

Hygge showed me a short video of the c-ring/headset cover interface that shows the c-ring in black like mine. However, their headset cover appears to be slightly different. I've reached out again today and will probably get an answer tonight.

Thanks for your help!

Just like @TidyDinosaur wrote, your LBS didn't cut the steerer correctly! Your LBS is BS because they should have warned you about something's wrong and advise you on possible problem/solution and not let you leave the store with your head in the sack! >:( They are either incompetent or utterly lazy!

As already advised, you can put regular round headset spacer and top cap and try if everything compresses.

The only other thing I would suspect is that compression ring measures too thick. Hygge changes small parts like underwear, probably depending on where they can source them. They are not certainly producing them. We've seen different spacers, compression plugs, seat clamps, handlebars etc. so it would not surprise me if they changed something. Although in the end all those parts should be compatible on different bikes...

Personally, I would return the bike to your LBS and ask them to do the job properly. You paid for it probably so it's their job.

Just take your time, everything will be solved in the end, just don't force anything so you don't damage the frame. Soon you'll be enjoying riding the bike and be perfectly satisfied.

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