Spcycle New Mold G068 Carbon Gravel Frame

[frnchy]

I assume the new fork is still 31.8 mm in diameter? I was thinking about mounting a Canyon gear groove cockpit. But I guess thats not possible.

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New fork should have a standard 1 1/8" steerer, like the other fork option; Canyon is the one with weird standards but even they went with a 1 1/8" steerer on the new Grail, so their cockpit should work just fine.

[MHcell]

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New fork should have a standard 1 1/8" steerer, like the other fork option; Canyon is the one with weird standards but even they went with a 1 1/8" steerer on the new Grail, so their cockpit should work just fine.

Thank you. I somehow remembered that Canyon has a different Standard. Then this will be my Black Friday frame.

[Kactusdog]

Guys, have you seen a new iteration of G068 frame? Namely G069. It seems to have different fork:

I covered this earlier in the thread. New fork was being tested, and is now ready. But if you still want clearance, go with the flip chip one.

[ledude]

I bought the G068 recently and the quality is not great. Looking inside my frame there are multiple locations with loose carbon strands. Customer service insisted that there is nothing wrong with the bike. Initially I ignored that loose cabon strands in the front fork tube and continuted my build. But after routing the cables and assembling the headset. I noticed that cables are rubbing against a longer and thicker carbon strand in the downtube and making some annoying noise. Then I realize that almost every mounting hole where the frame is drill through has the same carbon layer ruptering around revits.

[klindsey00]

My frame finally was delivered, the box was shaped weird and looked like it had been kicked down some stairs. Everything looks good on it. Working on building it up. Sram rival 12 speed with Elite wheels, kocevlo handlebars. So far so good. The brake hose was getting caught on something in the chainstay but it made it through. This is my first bike build and I don't have any crazy tools but it's working out well.

[Rolle2k]

How is the seatpost clamp on this one? especially with carbon seatposts? so there any need for carbon grip paste? how much torque is needed on that screw?

Thinking about going with the Ergon CF Allroad Pro with the frame, which is why i'm asking.

[klindsey00]

Seatpost clamp held me up when I sat on it (200lbs/90kg). ( have since put grip paste just to be safe. I need to finish building up the bike and get a ride on it to get some real answers

[raisinberry777]

Finally got this built and out for a shakedown ride - haven't had it on the gravel yet but first impressions are excellent. Geometry feels dialed. Paint looks fantastic. SRAM mullet is fantastic for a gravel build. Size S and a 70mm stem (same as Canyon supply on stock builds) is ideal for my 174cm height. XMCarbonSpeed wheels were easy to set up and seal, and even the own brand tubeless valves seemed nicely made.

Downsides in building:
- BB and brake mounts needed facing
- Grommets on the frame are a poor fit once you run a hose through them (if I had my time again I probably would've ordered the fully internally routed one).
- Headset/UDH/axles are pretty chunky - suspect that a fair bit of weight could be shaved off these.

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Part      Item                                           Weight (g)   Notes
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Frame     SP Cycle G068 size S (Grail 2023 clone)        2000         Weight includes frame, uncut fork, headset, all bolts, 1x blanking plate, seatpost clamp, thru-axles, UDH
Fork      SP Cycle G068 size S (Grail 2023 clone)       
Headset   SP Cycle G068                                 

Seatpost  Elita One 27.2mm 0 offset                      141
Bars      Kalloy FL12 40cm                               299
Stem      Kalloy non-uno 70mm                            127
Saddle    China carbon                                   160

Groupset  SRAM Red mullet
Shifters  SRAM Red AXS                                   467
Brakes    SRAM Red AXS + IIIPro 160mm rotors             520         
Crank     Sram Force D2 DUB wide + Magene P505 + SRAM 40t700
BB        DUB Road wide T47                              100
FD        1x                                             0
RD        Sram GX Eagle AXS                              430
Chain     Sram GX 12 speed                               250
Cassette  SRAM XG-1295 10-50                             354

Wheels    XM Carbon Speed 50mm deep / 28/36mm wide       1430         Front = 670g, Rear = 760g
Tubes     Tubeless sealant + valves                      120          Valves = 12g
Tyres     Tufo Thundera HD 48mm                          1090
Skewers   Thru axle                                                   Weight in frame

Pedals    Shimano XT M8100                               330
Bar Tape  AliX Supacaz                                   100
Cages     Carbon                                         50
Cables    Battery                                        25
Other     AliX integrated Garmin mount                   40

Total                                                   8733          8.7 weighed


[CounterCyclist]

Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences. Made it much easier to plan my build.

Got mine ready now. Its my daily driver / utility bike. Had no issues at all with the frame. Seems of good quality, and plenty robust enough for my rather demanding use case (carrying a lot of gear in wintery conditions). As others have said, the frame is rather heavy, i.e. a lot of fibre has been used. This should make it heavy duty.

The ride quality is excellent with DT Swiss GR 1600 wheels and 42mm Conti top contact winter II tires. Hard to say how much of it is due to the frame but all the small chatter on our northern European icy roads is pretty much eliminated. Exactly what I wished for. Frame seems stiff enough too. Will only know this for sure with summer tires fitted.

Some details / experiences:
-   In the front I have Shimano road drivetrain (Ultegra) and in the rear Shimano mountain drivetrain (Deore 11 speed).
-   The chainring bolts of the Ultegra 46-36 crankset (R8000) touched the frame so had to use a small spacer on the drive side (the one that came with the FSA T47 bottom bracket)
-   In the rear I have the ‘Wheels Manufacturing Dropout 653 Derailleur Hanger #653 DM Mountain UDH’
-   David from Spcycle told me the frame bosses are rated for a rack with a maximum load of 5kg. Since I need to haul groceries for the family with this bike I put on my old Old Man Mountain rack, rated for over 30kg load when using it with a Robert Axle Project thru axle as the rack’s mounting point. Their specific thru axle I am using is ‘Axle for BOB Trailers 175/183mm - M12 x 1.0mm’. It comes with the necessary spacers needed for attaching it to the frame. Attachment through the derailleur hanger is not ideal but good enough. UPDATE 20 Dec: Using the Tailfin SRAM UDH Adaptor you can achieve a proper attachement of the rack to the thru axle - this is strongly recommended.
-   I have the SKS Bluemels 55 basic mudguards. There are functional mounting points for these on the seatstays and on the fork legs but none in the bottom bracket area (I used a zip tie to attach it to one of the screws under the down tube) and none in the rear of the fork, above the tire (I drilled a hole into the mudguard to use the mounting point directly under the fork crown)
-    With the mudguards the 44mm wide and 44mm high tire (measured) is the largest one that can be fitted in the rear. A wider one would be ok but not a higher one. The limiting factor is the distance between the tire and the seat tube. In the front a 50mm wide and high tire would fit easily even with the mudguard.
-   I have Shimano BR-UR300 brake calipers front and rear. My 160mm rotors were too small for both (in the 55mm offset position in the front) so had upgrade to 180mm ones

Very happy with the frame and build overall.

[Rolle2k]

Finally got this built and out for a shakedown ride - haven't had it on the gravel yet but first impressions are excellent. Geometry feels dialed. Paint looks fantastic. SRAM mullet is fantastic for a gravel build. Size S and a 70mm stem (same as Canyon supply on stock builds) is ideal for my 174cm height. XMCarbonSpeed wheels were easy to set up and seal, and even the own brand tubeless valves seemed nicely made.

Downsides in building:
- BB and brake mounts needed facing
- Grommets on the frame are a poor fit once you run a hose through them (if I had my time again I probably would've ordered the fully internally routed one).
- Headset/UDH/axles are pretty chunky - suspect that a fair bit of weight could be shaved off these.

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Part      Item                                           Weight (g)   Notes
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Frame     SP Cycle G068 size S (Grail 2023 clone)        2000         Weight includes frame, uncut fork, headset, all bolts, 1x blanking plate, seatpost clamp, thru-axles, UDH
Fork      SP Cycle G068 size S (Grail 2023 clone)       
Headset   SP Cycle G068                                 

Seatpost  Elita One 27.2mm 0 offset                      141
Bars      Kalloy FL12 40cm                               299
Stem      Kalloy non-uno 70mm                            127
Saddle    China carbon                                   160

Groupset  SRAM Red mullet
Shifters  SRAM Red AXS                                   467
Brakes    SRAM Red AXS + IIIPro 160mm rotors             520         
Crank     Sram Force D2 DUB wide + Magene P505 + SRAM 40t700
BB        DUB Road wide T47                              100
FD        1x                                             0
RD        Sram GX Eagle AXS                              430
Chain     Sram GX 12 speed                               250
Cassette  SRAM XG-1295 10-50                             354

Wheels    XM Carbon Speed 50mm deep / 28/36mm wide       1430         Front = 670g, Rear = 760g
Tubes     Tubeless sealant + valves                      120          Valves = 12g
Tyres     Tufo Thundera HD 48mm                          1090
Skewers   Thru axle                                                   Weight in frame

Pedals    Shimano XT M8100                               330
Bar Tape  AliX Supacaz                                   100
Cages     Carbon                                         50
Cables    Battery                                        25
Other     AliX integrated Garmin mount                   40

Total                                                   8733          8.7 weighed


Looking great.. would it be possible to fit mudguards with the 48mm thunderos? I'm still waiting for my frame, and i ordered 55mm wide mudguards, and would hope they will work all the way up to around that size..
I was thinking of running 40mm tyres for commuting, and 45-50mm for riding harsher terrain. The bigger that fits, the better.

[JalopnikGo]

How is the clearance for p505? Heard that it may have issues with T47 BB. Is everything working normally?

Finally got this built and out for a shakedown ride - haven't had it on the gravel yet but first impressions are excellent. Geometry feels dialed. Paint looks fantastic. SRAM mullet is fantastic for a gravel build. Size S and a 70mm stem (same as Canyon supply on stock builds) is ideal for my 174cm height. XMCarbonSpeed wheels were easy to set up and seal, and even the own brand tubeless valves seemed nicely made.

Downsides in building:
- BB and brake mounts needed facing
- Grommets on the frame are a poor fit once you run a hose through them (if I had my time again I probably would've ordered the fully internally routed one).
- Headset/UDH/axles are pretty chunky - suspect that a fair bit of weight could be shaved off these.

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Part      Item                                           Weight (g)   Notes
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Frame     SP Cycle G068 size S (Grail 2023 clone)        2000         Weight includes frame, uncut fork, headset, all bolts, 1x blanking plate, seatpost clamp, thru-axles, UDH
Fork      SP Cycle G068 size S (Grail 2023 clone)       
Headset   SP Cycle G068                                 

Seatpost  Elita One 27.2mm 0 offset                      141
Bars      Kalloy FL12 40cm                               299
Stem      Kalloy non-uno 70mm                            127
Saddle    China carbon                                   160

Groupset  SRAM Red mullet
Shifters  SRAM Red AXS                                   467
Brakes    SRAM Red AXS + IIIPro 160mm rotors             520         
Crank     Sram Force D2 DUB wide + Magene P505 + SRAM 40t700
BB        DUB Road wide T47                              100
FD        1x                                             0
RD        Sram GX Eagle AXS                              430
Chain     Sram GX 12 speed                               250
Cassette  SRAM XG-1295 10-50                             354

Wheels    XM Carbon Speed 50mm deep / 28/36mm wide       1430         Front = 670g, Rear = 760g
Tubes     Tubeless sealant + valves                      120          Valves = 12g
Tyres     Tufo Thundera HD 48mm                          1090
Skewers   Thru axle                                                   Weight in frame

Pedals    Shimano XT M8100                               330
Bar Tape  AliX Supacaz                                   100
Cages     Carbon                                         50
Cables    Battery                                        25
Other     AliX integrated Garmin mount                   40

Total                                                   8733          8.7 weighed


[raisinberry777]

Looking great.. would it be possible to fit mudguards with the 48mm thunderos? I'm still waiting for my frame, and i ordered 55mm wide mudguards, and would hope they will work all the way up to around that size..
I was thinking of running 40mm tyres for commuting, and 45-50mm for riding harsher terrain. The bigger that fits, the better.

Highly doubt it just based on current clearance. Most manufacturers take 5mm off the tyre clearance if running guards and I'd consider the same to be true here.

How is the clearance for p505? Heard that it may have issues with T47 BB. Is everything working normally?

Plenty of clearance here - but keep in mind I'm running the SRAM DUB wide crank which has a longer spindle. Can't comment on what it would be like with a P505 Base for example (which is where most people have run into problems on T47 frames).

[JalopnikGo]

Good point in dub wide. It does have more clearance than the pes version.

I have pes on the way, will update here if it fits with T47 BB

[raisinberry777]

Good point in dub wide. It does have more clearance than the pes version.

I have pes on the way, will update here if it fits with T47 BB

I expect with the way the bottom bracket is shaped (where it comes out a bit at the BB shell) might make it more likely to be compatible with the PES crank compared to some of the more problematic Trek bikes where the BB area is flat all the way out to the end of that 86mm width (if that makes sense?).