Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[Sander2177]

Hi
I got my fake SL8 from Taiwanese:
frame size 56 828gr (835gr with 5 bottles bolts and front derailleur hanger) - naked carbon finish, no logo
Fork 321gr - - naked carbon finish
Seatpost  (long version) 173gr
Handlebar 347gr

It will take me some weeks to recollect the pieces and test it.
The only thing I do not like at this stage is the space btw fork and head tube and btw headtube and headset coverage (I will add some photos).

I will keep you posted.

This issue of gaps in this area are well document over on Weighweenies for the actual SL8
Sone thought the gaps were excessive mainly where the transition spaces under the stem met the head tube. Good thing they transferring the same niggles onto the copies lol

[ancientone]

Seraph offers gravel bikes prebuilt with wheeltop from $900 on aliexpress, crazy!

Priced went up, and the shipping is alot more...

[Ludo]

$220 tu Texas, not too bad I think. that's get the bike delivered during sales for a cool $1000, hard to beat. it wasnt thta frame though

[MTB-Addicted]

Here are the gaps, on the top and below of the headtube.
Any suggestion to close a bit these spaces ?

[Ludo]

Can’t you file down the top side of the C ring to get it to where you want? I had to do that on my gravel bike, takes an hour work over a couple of nights for a perfect fit

[jcr]

Here are the gaps, on the top and below of the headtube.
Any suggestion to close a bit these spaces ?

You got this from Taiwan, so not the same frameset from TanTan? so different hardware kit?

[patliean1]

Here’s the gap on my SL8 for reference.

[LowPaceKingdom]

You bought from tantan/seraph a frame + bars + groupset that came pre-built in a box? And wheels in a different box?
Afaik, it's unheard of, please enlighten us. Shipping cost too, as air freight of these oversized boxes is charged linearly, so every kilo easily costs another 25 eur or so in extra shipping costs.
If carbon sellers can source groups at OEM prices, it could be very nice to receive pre-built bikes.

Yes!. Two Boxes, Well packaged and thick cardboard

Wheelset Box ~~4,5kg :     Tires ; Innertube alrdy mounted ; discs brakes; cassette alrdy installed : it was just flat , i just had to pump it up !
Frame Box     ~~ 7.5kg:     Brake calipers ; inner cables (brakes and electronics) ; Bottom Bracked ; crankset ;Chain; Both derailleur ;  Handebar tape; brakes Bleeded; Shifters , Saddle connected with seatpost , derailleur and crankset bolts are greased  : ALL  alrdy installed and really good craftmanship . shifting works (indexed),
I used tarmac sl8 manual pdf and  added as it recommed by specialized                Carbon paste:   Seatpost and handlebar area for friction
                                                                                                                       Grease:  bearings fork top and bot ; seatpost Bolt

Pricing details page 8
   

[LowPaceKingdom]

Looks nice! Could you tell the weight of your build (with and whitout wheels)? I'd like to know if I can make it 6,99 kilo with 11sp ultegra Di2 and 1230gr wheels

Also, what saddles are that? Do you know the weight of those? They look nice!

And last question: Is that color chameleon white, or pearl white?

sry mate alrdy builded the bike up   

 full build / sd2000 saddle  / without pedals / frame size 54 :                          7,175 Kg

Weight of the Saddle  SD4000  no bolts                                                             140 gr 
saddle link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/3d-printing-technology-honeycomb-design-breathable-full-carbon-fiber-road-bicyle-saddle-sd2000-sd8000-mtb-bicycle-gravel-saddle-p5826463.html"

u can definitly safe weight at

Tires:
my tires Conti ultra sport 3 ("budget training tires")  700 X 28C /                2x    295 g   
Innertube:  conti. butyl tube

Wheelset: titanium hub / Carbon spokes  /                                                         1305g
Link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/700c-carbon-wave-wheelset-50x28mm-disc-brake-gravel-carbon-spoke-1305g-ratchet-3654t-ceramic-titanium-color-hub-road-bike-wheels-p5847395.html"

colour is "Chameleon White YS9145" 

Di2 105 vs ultegra vs dura ace                                           

[Cnasta]

sry mate alrdy builded the bike up   

 full build / sd2000 saddle  / without pedals / frame size 54 :                          7,175 Kg

Weight of the Saddle  SD4000  no bolts                                                             140 gr 
saddle link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/3d-printing-technology-honeycomb-design-breathable-full-carbon-fiber-road-bicyle-saddle-sd2000-sd8000-mtb-bicycle-gravel-saddle-p5826463.html"

u can definitly safe weight at

Tires:
my tires Conti ultra sport 3 ("budget training tires")  700 X 28C /                2x    295 g   
Innertube:  conti. butyl tube

Wheelset: titanium hub / Carbon spokes  /                                                         1305g
Link "https://www.seraphbikes.com/700c-carbon-wave-wheelset-50x28mm-disc-brake-gravel-carbon-spoke-1305g-ratchet-3654t-ceramic-titanium-color-hub-road-bike-wheels-p5847395.html"

colour is "Chameleon White YS9145" 

Di2 105 vs ultegra vs dura ace                                         

Thanks! With GP5000 + TPU inner I can save a lot. Your wheelset is pretty leight, but still will save about 80gr there. Guess ultegra Di2 saves a bit as well.

You have size 54. How tall are you? In doubt between 54 and 52

[MTB-Addicted]

Can’t you file down the top side of the C ring to get it to where you want? I had to do that on my gravel bike, takes an hour work over a couple of nights for a perfect fit

You mean the compression ring ?
It is made of plastic and it is the original Specialized one.

[momento]

for the upper area it is sufficient to file it evenly and it is solved, the problem is the lower part

[MTB-Addicted]

You got this from Taiwan, so not the same frameset from TanTan? so different hardware kit?

From a seller on Aliexpress called Taiwanese, not from Taiwan (unfortunately  )

I deeply checked the picture from TanTan in Instagram and the frame is exactly the same I got.
Or TanTan is producing and selling to others or TanTan is buying from producers/sellers bu the frame is identical

[MTB-Addicted]

for the upper area it is sufficient to file it evenly and it is solved, the problem is the lower part

thanks for your suggestion.
What piece would you file ?
1. the casing of the upper bearing (thinning the carbon part into the frame)
2. the compression ring
3. the first headset spacer

Lower part should be qute easy IMHO:
I am thinking to fine the lower part of the fork tube, making it a little slimmer (0,5mm or less) so the bearing goes down and the gap should be filled.
Would you agree ?

Thanks!

[LowPaceKingdom]

You have size 54. How tall are you? In doubt between 54 and 52

                                 180 cm
stride length :             83cm
   ?                             30cm
for more details u have to pay 
stem length i ordered 100mm (  i dont even  know how to measure it)

did not test drive I sat on the bike and it felt sporty

!keep in  mind seatpost has MIN and MAX insert i recommend u have to have a look at original sl8 manual!