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ilyamaksimov

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1050 on: November 15, 2020, 10:17:08 AM »
The saddle is set quite forward, and the stem is longer than most.
You like to be on the front wheel  ;)

I tried to ride with a stem of 60mm, upward is better with a stem of 80mm as in the photo. The frame is great for XC

QuentinLL

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1051 on: November 15, 2020, 01:48:19 PM »
In the absence of putting a longer stem and making some changes later to lighten it ... so the "carbonda" remains.

Hi, very nice build.
What do you think of the X-Fusion shock ? Is there a remote ?
Your SUntour Aion 35 is 120mm travel ?


Did somebody tried to put a 27.5 x 2.8 tire rear ?
I ride it on my hardtail on very rocky / exposed trails, it feels amazing in some situations.

albar

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1052 on: November 15, 2020, 02:27:12 PM »
In the absence of putting a longer stem and making some changes later to lighten it ... so the "carbonda" remains.
Hello!
Is this a stock shock X-Fusion from Carbonda? How it performs?

victorike

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1053 on: November 16, 2020, 02:34:05 AM »
I have not yet been able to release the bike. 
The xfusion is not carbonda.  The Xfusion shock absorber is 165x45 and I have to return it to the guy who buys it, since the shock absorber measurements went wrong. 
I have never used these tires, we will see how they work.
 The suntour aion is in 120mm.

albar

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1054 on: November 16, 2020, 04:22:55 AM »
I need advise of collective mind:)
I’m going to order a frame but in stock now  there are frames SL with pressfit BB and Normal version with BSA BB. Which version is better?
« Last Edit: November 16, 2020, 05:33:39 AM by albar »

theirishrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1055 on: November 16, 2020, 06:28:21 AM »
I need advise of collective mind:)
I’m going to order a frame but in stock now  there are frames SL with pressfit BB and Normal version with BSA BB. Which version is better?
I've had Zero issues with my normal press fit frame, from what i know, nobody has experienced significant press-fit BB problems. I'd say choose with your wallet!

helmat

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1056 on: November 16, 2020, 06:39:38 AM »
Does anyone have experience how the two frame variations, normal and SL, compare (apart from the weight difference)?
Espacially regarding stiffness and quality? Is the SL one more XC racing orientated and the normal for heavier trail focused use or is there no obvious difference?

adroitrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1057 on: November 16, 2020, 07:45:40 AM »
Does anyone have experience how the two frame variations, normal and SL, compare (apart from the weight difference)?
Espacially regarding stiffness and quality? Is the SL one more XC racing orientated and the normal for heavier trail focused use or is there no obvious difference?

The SL is to save weight. Some have said it is a different mold/layup while others believer it is just additional sanding.

I went SL because it was lighter. I wanted BSA for simplicity. It’s a balance.

theirishrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1058 on: November 16, 2020, 07:57:20 AM »
The SL is to save weight. Some have said it is a different mold/layup while others believer it is just additional sanding.

I went SL because it was lighter. I wanted BSA for simplicity. It’s a balance.
I would probably say its a different fiber layerup and finer sanding. For 150 grams for (250dollars?) difference you have to ask does it match the components on the bike? You could save that many grams elsewhere easily for 250 if you're using SLX /Deore components or heavier bars,seatpost, saddle.

QuentinLL

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1059 on: November 16, 2020, 10:02:00 AM »
I had many problems with Pressfit BB on my carbon MTBs. It is never perfectly aligned, the bearings wear quickly and there is play between the parts.
Even with expensive BB. I need to change it every 3 000 km average (depending on dirt / dust / weather conditions).
With BSA, I never had any issue, even with the cheapest BB. The "new" Threadfit is promising as well...

For SL, if i remember well carbonda told me that the fiber is different on some points. The frame is as stiff and reliable both ways. But fiber and manufacturing is more expensive on super light.

carbonazza

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1060 on: November 16, 2020, 12:43:08 PM »
Here is some more fire to the BB soup !

If you plan to use a DUB or 30mm spindle take a BSA.
If you plan to use a 24mm spindle or GXP(that sucks for bearing life) take the BB92.
So sad they do not provide BB386 frames( a wider PF30)

All the bikes I've built for friends and family(about 30) and my bikes(about 12,000km/y) are PF.
PF is lighter and if done right, trouble free.

BSA comes from the old times of metallic frames that were threaded directly, without any additional interface.
Here it is a tiny alloy shell that is bonded to the carbon.
On such a loaded area, it is simply a call for troubles.

Since I plan to have a DUB spindle I took BSA and SL(because I'm WW)
I'm just hoping Carbonda will offer a well aligned and robust BSA.

adroitrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1061 on: November 16, 2020, 01:19:10 PM »
Also for the press fit you need additional tools that add about $100 compared to BSA tools.


albar

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1062 on: November 16, 2020, 01:37:02 PM »
Thanks all for advises… I think I’m going to order normal frame with BSA because it is easier to replace.  I plan this frame as a spare so additional money savings also will be good.

flojae96

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1063 on: November 16, 2020, 01:47:30 PM »
Also for the press fit you need additional tools that add about $100 compared to BSA tools.
or round about  25 € :)
https://www.bike-components.de/de/3min19sec/Innenlager-Einpresswerkzeug-fuer-GXP-24-mm-30-mm-und-DUB-p77521/

jever98

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1064 on: November 16, 2020, 02:03:40 PM »
+1 on carbonazza's experience that Pressfit can work well if you install it properly (activator and Loctite for pressfit).

But also +1 on that it's more hassle to remove if you need to - a nice feature of BSA.