Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[reddi]

Hi,

So I didn't order this frame, despite looking at them back in July, but now I'm ready to order I can't get a response from Carbonda. I've emailed Adam and sales1 email addresses, and sent a message on Skype and through the website. Has any one had any communication with them in the last week?

Also, I was wondering how long delivery has taken for people when the frames have been in stock, and without custom paint?

Yeah, Emailing with Adam can be quite annoying. To me, his anwering quota is about 50%.
However, he answered me on skype just yesterday (to give me the tracking number).
Maybe you'd better try to contact Wing via Skype.

About delivery times:
I payed my order the 24th of November. Adam told me they had XL/BSA in stock.
According to WXY tracking, they sent the package the 29th of December, making it exactly 5 weeks for painting, but during christmas time...
Since then, there is no new tracking info.
I am waiting for another package from china with a pair of rims, also forwarded by WXY. This one was sent on December 9th and went via Kazakhstan and Russia. I guess it took the trans-eurasia railway, no airplane. Today (after 1 month) it arrived in Berlin, so i expect it to arrive at my home within a week.
So if the package from carbonda takes the same route with the same speed, it will add up to 10 weeks from placing order to receiving it in Germany... and i'll have to wait another month

[Jotegr]

According to WXY tracking, they sent the package the 29th of December, making it exactly 5 weeks for painting, but during christmas time...

Just as an FYI to yourself and others in this thread, they don't really do the whole Christmas thing over there- so there's no delay caused by it. The big thing for them is new years (their version of it) which often closes factories for like 9 days. That's upcoming and in the past what has caused delays for us.

[andymtb10]

Thsnks it looks like it's the Chinese New year now, so I'll try again in a a week. I really want this frame now, and am feeling very impatient

[adriaanm]

I'm pretty sure Chinese New Year is February 12 this year (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_New_Year#Public_holiday). I just looked it up and the corresponding public holiday is Feb 11-17 (people often take an additional week of vacation after).

[ENEP]

I'm also waiting for confirmation from Adam on a frame order.

Edit: I've chosen to order the frame without paint but the factory still needs one week before shipping for paintwork. Does anybody know what paintwork they're doing if ordered without  paint?

[carbonazza]

They apply a clear coat on carbon, matte or gloss, to protect the epoxy.
From what I understood they get batches monthly, if in stock fine, if not, some wait is expected.

Sure the national Holidays are in February.
If neither Adam nor Wing answer as fast as usual, they must be doing or having something.
But I wouldn't call it directly the end of Carbonda 

[theirishrider]

Can I use 165x38mm on the back with 100mm front?

Will I see any difference when using 38 between 40mm?

Your travel will be shorter at the back but your bb height won't change between 38mm vs 42.5mm with 20% sag. The minimum height it reached will however during the stroke. Regarding the 100mm fork, I think there was an excel analysis posted a few comments ago showing little difference in BB height between 120vs100mm.

[albar]

Can I use 165x38mm on the back with 100mm front?

Will I see any difference when using 38 between 40mm?

I got 165x38 shock on this frame. You have to use it with special threaded axle. It took one hour of local mechanic's work

[wfl3]

Your travel will be shorter at the back but your bb height won't change between 38mm vs 42.5mm with 20% sag. The minimum height it reached will however during the stroke. Regarding the 100mm fork, I think there was an excel analysis posted a few comments ago showing little difference in BB height between 120vs100mm.

Going from a 100mm to a 120mm fork reduced my pedal strikes at least 90%

I forget the old 100mm number, but I think the 120mm fork raised my BB close to 1/2" if I remember correctly.  With the 120mm fork on mine the center of the BB shell to the floor is 13" now.  I do remember thinking it raised it more than I expected.  Another 1/4" higher would prob be perfect for me.

[theirishrider]

Going from a 100mm to a 120mm fork reduced my pedal strikes at least 90%

I forget the old 100mm number, but I think the 120mm fork raised my BB close to 1/2" if I remember correctly.  With the 120mm fork on mine the center of the BB shell to the floor is 13" now.  I do remember thinking it raised it more than I expected.  Another 1/4" higher would prob be perfect for me.

The excel might be wrong  

[zac2944]

Also, I was wondering how long delivery has taken for people when the frames have been in stock, and without custom paint?

I ordered a frame (SL, M, BSA) on 12-1-20.  Adam said it was in stock and would take 2-3 weeks.  By 1-5-21, 5 weeks later, I still had not received the frame.  I emailed Adam on 1-5-21 and he promptly replied, said there was a mistake and the order hadn't shipped yet but they still had a frame in stock and that he would ship out FedEx ASAP.  I received the frame yesterday 1-11-21. 

So it took me about 6 weeks, but that's because someone on Carbonda's end made a mistake.  Mistakes happen; I get that.  I'm glad that when they found out about it they quickly shipped FedEx and had a frame to the US in less than a week. 

[RobertRinAustin]

I paid for a large SL BSA on 12/5 and it arrived 1/11.

[carbonazza]

If neither Adam nor Wing answer as fast as usual, they must be doing or having something.
But I wouldn't call it directly the end of Carbonda 

Or check your spam folder as I did to find Wing's email 

[andymtb10]

I've had contact bow, and am hoping they send the invoice, or however they do it tonight.

I can't wait to ride it! Hoping for some races this year!

[Barkything]

Could you post a picture of this axle? where is she located?

The FM936 is designed for trunnion mount shock.

165x40mm = trunnion
165x42.5mm = trunnion
165x38mm = regular shock mount

you should get a trunnion mount shock or look for a conversion kit to mount regular shock on trunnion designed frame.