Author Topic: Chinese cycling clothes  (Read 83090 times)

Tijoe

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #105 on: May 14, 2023, 04:49:39 PM »
Heads up regarding WolfBike windbreakers. I purchased 3 in February.  The first one I started using, and have worn maybe 15 times has had the zipper fail.
I'll write the store and ask about any warranty or credit.  The sewing of the breaker appears to be good, but they use a pretty flimsy looking plastic zipper.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804822435710.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.5a63f19cvoTEr1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

 

Froglover825

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #106 on: May 14, 2023, 07:49:57 PM »
I bought some ykywbike bibs and jersey.
Jersey is okay, better than the likes of raccmer, no gripper on the jersey which is annoying.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005121599635.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.31.21ef180208RuUj
I like the bibs for the most part but they have one major flaw which makes them pretty much unusable.
They are really really short at the front, as in they come to below my naval, I would not advise the bibs to any taller riders due to this very glaring issue.

Sebastian

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2023, 02:14:59 PM »
I bought the "Coldback Tech Pro Team" bibs, which are actually among the more expensive bibs. The fit is perfectly fine. Not a huge fan of the fabric as I like a little more compression. The grippers are good because they stay put on your legs. The straps feel very nice. No twisting or discomfort. But that chamois doesn't work for me at all. I'll give it a try on my other road bike. I got a Specialized Power saddle on there that I am usually comfy on no matter the bibs. If the sensation stays the same then I'm afraid these aren't gonna work for me.

Update on the Spexcel pro team bibs: These bibs do feel better on my other bike with an SWORKS Power Saddle. But still not great. I could eventually get comfy on the chamois. But the fabric makes me slide around on the saddle much more than my other bibs which is annoying. And the chamois tends to bulk up in all the wrong places, therefore leading to uneven distribution of pressure. It’s better when I’m forcing myself to sit far back on the saddle and as much on my sit bones as possible. Also, these bibs seems to get comfier the more I ride them. Maybe the chamois “breaks in” somehow. But I wouldn’t trust these bibs for a gran fondo or a really really long ride.

The jersey is so good on the other hand that I bought a second one in a different Color.

Yunglord

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2023, 04:12:24 PM »
Update on the Spexcel pro team bibs: These bibs do feel better on my other bike with an SWORKS Power Saddle. But still not great. I could eventually get comfy on the chamois. But the fabric makes me slide around on the saddle much more than my other bibs which is annoying. And the chamois tends to bulk up in all the wrong places, therefore leading to uneven distribution of pressure. It’s better when I’m forcing myself to sit far back on the saddle and as much on my sit bones as possible. Also, these bibs seems to get comfier the more I ride them. Maybe the chamois “breaks in” somehow. But I wouldn’t trust these bibs for a gran fondo or a really really long ride.

The jersey is so good on the other hand that I bought a second one in a different Color.

I've had 3 of these bibs pad fail over time as the pad bunched up in all the wrong places and at the end separated.

I've done 7 hour rides with them but they are not long lasting.

Sebastian

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #109 on: May 26, 2023, 04:23:13 PM »
I've had 3 of these bibs pad fail over time as the pad bunched up in all the wrong places and at the end separated.

I've done 7 hour rides with them but they are not long lasting.

Yeah. I think I’ll keep on using it for short rides but I won’t get another one. It’s a bit of a shame really because with a better pad this could be a nice bib. The quality and manufacturing is actually quite good. Maybe they’ll update their bibs at some point. I get along really well with Castelli bibs and their pads. Those are in a completely different league compared to this Spexcel bib, however.

hagerd

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #110 on: June 01, 2023, 12:22:35 PM »
For a customer service note on Spexcel, I bought a set of cargo bibs from them and the zipper totally failed and came apart (unglued or just not stiched??) Anyways i bought them 5 months ago this was only me second ride with them. Spexcel gave me full credit and is sending me a new set. Pretty happy considering how this type of thing usually goes with Ali vendors.

Froglover825

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #111 on: June 01, 2023, 11:00:19 PM »
I bought a pair of DAREVIE bibs and long sleeve thermal jersey.

The top is really good, wear it in around 8-10 degrees and it holds up well, fits well, no stitching issues.
The bibs are the lowest tier i spend $26 aud, the build of the bibs are good and they fit well but the chamois is really thin and not very wide, i would not recommend wearing them for a ride over an hour, even just on my commute the chamois inadequency is apparent.

kbernstein

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #112 on: June 02, 2023, 05:59:45 AM »
I bought a pair of DAREVIE bibs and long sleeve thermal jersey.

The top is really good, wear it in around 8-10 degrees and it holds up well, fits well, no stitching issues.
The bibs are the lowest tier i spend $26 aud, the build of the bibs are good and they fit well but the chamois is really thin and not very wide, i would not recommend wearing them for a ride over an hour, even just on my commute the chamois inadequency is apparent.

Care to link the models? These ones?
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005561105339.html
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html

nickobec

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #113 on: June 02, 2023, 08:05:30 AM »
Long term wearer of Chinese cycling kit, over 5 years ago purchased my first Racmmer and Spexcel kit. Own a lot of kit from Rapha Pro Team (probably my favourite to wear), DHB Aeron (my value for money pick), Pedal Mafia (my local brand) and a heap of Australian, European and Chinese brands.

I am hard on my kit, I sweat a lot, train hard and race hard. Did not always take good care of my kit, ie did not rinse my kit immediately after use and used  detergent with added enzymes. If I was lucky I might get 40 or so rides out of a pair of bibs before the went see through. Hence looking for value for money options particularly for my commute/training ride which was 40km one way.

I currently have 30 jerseys and 20 bibs of various colours (everything but white) in rotation. Calmed down purchasing over last 18 months as improved washing techniques have extended the life of my kits and I  am spending time in gym which is changing my body shape.
Quality of kit is changing, what you expect from high end kit 5 years ago in design, materials, constructions is common amongst the value end of the market and what was acceptable to me as budget kit a few years ago is no longer.

My experience with Chinese brands

Racmmer: My first jersey cost me $10 and came with laser cut aero sleeves and body that didn’t breath, great value at the time, but not something I would buy now. I find their base layers don’t breath and the bibs shorts don’t do it, cheap and nasty pad in wrong place, harsh lycra, minimal compression.

Spexcel: Had a bunch of their jerseys from a few years back, looked good, felt good, but they deteriorated fairly quickly, after 30 or so rides, badly faded, broken zips, saggy pockets, stitches just unravelling and even a tear in the material from use not damage. Most jerseys last me for a lot longer before I retire them . The bib shorts rarely got worn as they lacked the compression. Did buy some 2021 releases, the compression is better in the bib shorts https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002861130474.html , but not the level I get and like  from other brands and the jersey https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002580418338.html has survived so far, but probably only a dozen rides, but better than others. Would buy again.

YKYWbike: Love the atheistic of their jerseys, but realising they are deteriorating faster the most others jerseys ie 10 to 15 rides and they are worse that jerseys bought over 5 years ago with 50 or more rides in them. Bought their Korea lycra cargo bibs, first impressions great, so I bought a second pair with the Elastic Interface pad, but again after regular use (maybe 20 rides each) the soft, compressive lycra is a little harsh and lost some compression. Really rate their base layers and socks.

Darevie: Friends rave about them, but did like their style. Bought a plain long sleeve jersey, crashed and destroyed it first ride, did not care, cheap material poor fit. Also bought bibs, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html , the pad is a little thin still done 100km in a pair, does lack the compression I like, the lycra is light weight which is great for summer rides in 30C/90F around here. Liked the range of colours I bought three, only downside is one pair the lycra appears to be damaged on a hip, no idea why.

Cheji took a risk on this brand because they were the first to sell coloured bibs on AliExpress. Happy I did, these are my favourites https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001939822272.html have three different colours and the bright purple take a beating as my race bibs. Decent compression, has taken a lot of use with deteriorating and the lycra still feel good. Quality wise (construction, materials etc) like the previous DHB Aeron bibs and no problem on 4 hour rides. Have a couple of jerseys that have survived a dozen rides without issue. Only word of warning their pricing is unpredictable and fluctuates. I scored two pairs of those bibs at $25 each, current asking $50 and have seen them at $70. 

Monton https://montonsports.com/ a level above the AliExpress brands, I own a pair of their Skul bib shorts $66 very lightweight, great compression, my bib shorts of choice when I had to do a ride in 45C/112F. After sales service leaves a little to be desired my shipment disappeared for 9 weeks in transit. Had tracking got to Chinese airport and nothing, negotiating a replacement was challenging process, then suddenly tracking sprang to life after 11 weeks will my shipment appearing at an airport on the other side of Australia.

Other brands, I have taken a few risks with other brands off AliExpress and generally been disappointed and I don’t set my expectations too high.


kbernstein

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2023, 05:37:49 AM »
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003399619877.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.68271802qVZ8gt
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003380362166.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.68271802qVZ8gt

I'm glad the bad experience on the bibs were not the ones I was eyeing. The thermal jersey looks really good, I'm tempted but what's with the comically small back pockets? Are they this small in real life?

nickobec

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2023, 06:47:01 AM »
I'm glad the bad experience on the bibs were not the ones I was eyeing.

Which ones were you eyeing?

I have these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html which I really like, though not for 4+ hour rides and these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001622154194.html which are OK.

kbernstein

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #117 on: June 05, 2023, 07:09:49 AM »
Which ones were you eyeing?

I have these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003127347074.html which I really like, though not for 4+ hour rides and these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001622154194.html which are OK.

The first one you linked. I don't really do rides under 3 hours so I'm skeptical of any "good for short rides only" reviews

Froglover825

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2023, 07:19:51 PM »
I'm glad the bad experience on the bibs were not the ones I was eyeing. The thermal jersey looks really good, I'm tempted but what's with the comically small back pockets? Are they this small in real life?
They are normal sized, at least for me who just carries wallet/phone/keys and energy gel satchet.

nickobec

Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2023, 07:38:38 PM »
The first one you linked. I don't really do rides under 3 hours so I'm skeptical of any "good for short rides only" reviews
For a little context

I split my bibs into short (under 2 hours), medium (2 to 4 hours)  and long (4 hour plus) rides.

The bibs in question are in the medium group.

A short ride is usually 15 minute warm up, 60 to 90 minutes of intervals and 15 minute cool down.

A medium ride is usually 60 minutes endurance pace, 60 minutes of bunch (ie trying to rip each others legs off) ride, coffee and 60 minutes home with whatever I have left or 100 minutes at endurance pace, refill bidons, turn round and another 100 minutes at endurance pace home. The bibs in question have be thoroughly tested here. However, if I push beyond that ie did two hours at solid endurance before the bunch ride, the pad did feel uncomfortable for the last 30 minutes of the ride home. Same happened while trying to complete intervals after 3 hours on endurance (but then my whole body hurt).

For long rides I tend to stick to bibs I know will work, Rapha Pro Team, Pedal Mafia Pro and even then I tend to get pad discomfort after 6 hours.