Chinese cycling clothes

[Serge_K]

Does anyone have this? https://aliexpress.com/item/1005007593454835.html

@Serge about the hiserwa windbreaker: Is it any thick or just a thin windbreaker? I see you have a size M but you're about my size, is this the right size? I usually prefer asian size L for jerseys
And do you still use the "thermic" spexcel jersey or is it a complete spongy waste of money even under 5°c?

That pad is gel. gel pads are notoriously cheap and shitty.

The jacket is just a windstopper layer. I've done several rides in single digit temperatures (celcius), very pleased with it. Base layer w holes + LS plastic TS + LS merino TS + this jacket + buff + the 3m gloves mentioned + the winter shoes mentioned + long BIB, and it's great. I get sweaty hands, which is better than getting them cold, i guess. The sizing of the jacket is great. The shoes are the weakest link, because even with wool socks, my feet are slightly cold at the end of the ride, so i would probably get cold feet during very long rides.

[SillyMochi]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyehcYz
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQocJTR

The shoes i sized up one size as per reviews. Maybe sizing up two sizes assuming thick wool socks is the right move. Definitely need one size up either way
If the soles were stiff, they'd be amazing.

The gloves I took the 3m version that costs a bit more. So warm, the other ones might be better :p

Shoes arrived today. Took same size as my Shimano shoes which is sized up by one compared to my normal shoes. Fits well. Also seems warm enough for a cold(er) ride.

Only problem: how tf are you mounting your road cleats without those stupid MTB cleat screws being in the way?! If I remove the screws, then the mounting plate where they go into rattles around in there. Cannot remove the mounting plate, as the base layer of the shoe is glued to the frame.

How did you mount your cleats without the damn plate rattling around there like nobody's business?! 

[Crash217]

Maybe a few dabs of shoe-goo adhesive and then remove the screws once it’s set would hold the plate in place?

[TidyDinosaur]

Maybe a few dabs of shoe-goo adhesive and then remove the screws once it’s set would hold the plate in place?

Yeah, or hot glue

[Serge_K]

Shoes arrived today. Took same size as my Shimano shoes which is sized up by one compared to my normal shoes. Fits well. Also seems warm enough for a cold(er) ride.

Only problem: how tf are you mounting your road cleats without those stupid MTB cleat screws being in the way?! If I remove the screws, then the mounting plate where they go into rattles around in there. Cannot remove the mounting plate, as the base layer of the shoe is glued to the frame.

How did you mount your cleats without the damn plate rattling around there like nobody's business?! 

I just removed the screws and called it a day I havent heard or felt the plate rattling. didn't even cross my mind tbh. But the hot glue option is probably the one i'd go for. Or a tiny bit of super glue that you break off if you ever want to switch to MTB.
I've probably done 5-10 rides with the shoes by now. I always get slightly cold feet w them (riding at 0-10C) for 1-3h rides. I have neoprene shoe covers somewhere i could put on top, but i'd have to find them, put them on, which i hate, and so i guess the shoes are warm enough that i havent tried that yet. The sole is shockingly soft though, when i walk w them vs my carbon soled shoes, it's really day and night. But it's winter, so it doesnt matter if i lose 5w in power transfer.

[SillyMochi]

Thanks guys, love the ideas! Probably will go with the hot glue - it's what I have at home and think it's reversible; not that I think I ever want to. I just thought, I might be too stupid to figure it out and there's an obvious solution that I'm just not seeing 

Oh Serge, you are much more of a madman than me. I just walked around with them in my flat for 30s and already went crazy about the rattling. I probably wouldn't even make it to the first traffic light on the bike before ripping the shoes off 

[Cyclingcyc]

This YKYW bib short was worn 10 times, and its pad looks like this.

[Serge_K]

This YKYW bib short was worn 10 times, and its pad looks like this.

If you're still within the return window, return it. That's quality fade. If you'd been lucky, you'd have received something legit, but you essentially got fleeced.
If you're outside of the return window, complain. This level of wear after 10 rides is obviously completely abnormal.

[Cyclingcyc]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006517573094.html
I really needed this to be a super fitting jersey and it delivered. I really like it. Can't say how it compares with the real maap, but I like it better than my ykyw summer jersey ( that is also loose on me ). I would really like to get a few more of these but without maap/pas branding. If anyone know if this factory also produces their own label or no-label, I would really be interested in that.

This seller is unreliable. I purchased from him twice. He shipped my first order pretty slowly, but I liked the jerseys. Then I ordered two more jerseys, but he only sent me one, which was the wrong size and color. He only a middle man who purchases those items from Alibaba's factory.

Compared to the real MAAP, it only looks similar, but its material, zipper, and quality are not a match for MAAP.

[Cyclingcyc]

If you're still within the return window, return it. That's quality fade. If you'd been lucky, you'd have received something legit, but you essentially got fleeced.
If you're outside of the return window, complain. This level of wear after 10 rides is obviously completely abnormal.

It's outside of the return window, and when I complained to YKYW, he only offered me a coupon.

[SillyMochi]

Fixed the rattle. Hot glue gun did the trick!

I think I also figured out why it was rattling and why you, Serge, might actually not have the problem. The 3 bolts for SPD-SL road cleats are actually linked in a plate as well. It is just hard to see. If you look at the 2nd pic, my 2-bolt-plate sits below the 3-bolt-plate. If it would be the other way around (which I think would be the correct way to install them), the 2-bolt-plate would be clamped to the shoe when installing a road cleat and could not rattle at all. I think with my shoes they just installed them the wrong way around. Yours might not have the issue at all. The rattling is quite apparent and (for me) extremely bothersome. I think you would have instantly noticed if yours have the same issue (check video) 

Just the usual shitty Chinese QC ...
Would be an easy fix to just swap them; sadly the base layer is glued/stitched to the frame so you cannot access it.

[fhold]

@Serge_K @SillyMochi do you have any experience how waterproof these shoes are? I'm looking for a pair for commuting and need something that is also waterproof. If not, do you know of an alternative?

[Serge_K]

@Serge_K @SillyMochi do you have any experience how waterproof these shoes are? I'm looking for a pair for commuting and need something that is also waterproof. If not, do you know of an alternative?

Not tested. The upper looks pretty waterproof, there are no holes, and the boa system is covered by a flap. The sock system thing doesnt look waterproof.
But the sole has breathing holes in it in several places, for eg.
If it's cold AND raining, i'm not riding
If your commute is short enough though, should be fine. If your commute is very long...

I'm not sure.

[fhold]

thanks for the quick answer, I think then i skip on them. My commute is just 40 min but it can get quite wet so it's not an option if water will enter (especially for the return, as the shoes won't dry that quickly)

[courdacier]

"winter" gear update. Tested the gloves mentioned earlier in the thread. EXTREMELY warm, so much that my hands sweated. 85km at 6 degrees Celsius, 35kmh average, windy and no sun.

I really like the wind jacket (mentioned earlier in the thread). On that 6C ride, mostly in Z2, base layer, plastic LS TS, merino wool LS TS, jacket, buff around the neck. Long BIB. I felt great, neither hot nor cold.

Got one of these cheap base layers and they are heavy! compared to something legit like cutaway.
still works but meh.