Speeder SC-R48

[kbike]

I've been looking for a light frame rim or disc.  Did everyone decide to wait for these to be available or just passing til someone else offers a light frame?

[StiffWeenies]

I've been looking for a light frame rim or disc.  Did everyone decide to wait for these to be available or just passing til someone else offers a light frame?

The Winspace SLC 2.0 (aka SC-R48) and T1500 were launched in early/late '17 respectively and are most certainly due for an update. I don't see a critical mass ponying up for the MOQ and by the time we wait for Speeder to produce more stock, the Workswell WCB-R-366 would probably have come out.

[Irideslowly]

I would love for a aethos look alike without internal cable routing..

[bamboo_mountain]

I've been looking for a light frame rim or disc.  Did everyone decide to wait for these to be available or just passing til someone else offers a light frame?

I went with a velobuild in the end. Justin at speeder ghosted me after I asked too many questions 

[RDY]

The Winspace SLC 2.0 (aka SC-R48) and T1500 were launched in late '17 and are most certainly due for an update. I don't see a critical mass ponying up for the MOQ and by the time we wait for Speeder to produce more stock, the Workswell WCB-R-366 would probably have come out.

Assume you mean 369.  I've been in discussion with WW. They aren't opening it to private customers.  Even ones in territories where there is virtually no chance of them selling it to a brand that covers the area - I live in one such place. No idea why, as usually they're happy to sell stuff outside of covered territories.

[kbike]

Think 366 is correct.

[StiffWeenies]

Assume you mean 369.  I've been in discussion with WW. They aren't opening it to private customers.  Even ones in territories where there is virtually no chance of them selling it to a brand that covers the area - I live in one such place. No idea why, as usually they're happy to sell stuff outside of covered territories.

I don't really buy their spiel about not opening it to private customers. If it's private, why advertise it at all? The most I can see is them giving time limited exclusivity to one or a handful of brands, but sooner or later a nobody like myself will be able to buy because that's how they amortize the mould costs.

[svanimpe]

They probably don't care about small orders (yet)? The person I chatted with also left the conversation as soon as they understood I'm not an OEM. They didn't make a good first impression with me.

[StiffWeenies]

They probably don't care about small orders (yet)? The person I chatted with also left the conversation as soon as they understood I'm not an OEM. They didn't make a good first impression with me.

Every company has their own business model and we have to respect that. They have no social media presence unlike Velobuild and make no secret of their B2B focus. If you want to pay their low price you have to get lucky and hope that they have some unsold stock leftover.

[svanimpe]

In case anyone is still doubting this: the full bike picture on Speeder's website is actually a Winspace branded frame. They (badly) erased the downtube logo in Photoshop, but you can still see the side of the headtube logo:

[Irideslowly]

Which frame? To my untrained eye, the slc 2.0 isn't as round.

[svanimpe]

That picture is from the R48D web page, but it's clearly Winspace branded.

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R48D-_p346.html

[RDY]

Relevant to things Speeder.  My new tracklocross wheels.

[StiffWeenies]

Looks like a fully integrated SC-R48D/SLC 2.0 already exists

[RDY]

Can't be 100% sure as no geo available.  But assuming it is, probably just the same bike with an ACR HS and no cable entries drilled in the tubing.