Speeder SC-R48

[StiffWeenies]

Can't be 100% sure as no geo available.  But assuming it is, probably just the same bike with an ACR HS and no cable entries drilled in the tubing.

The geometry of the Streamline and Soar models in their 2019 catalog seem to match up with the T1500 and SLC 2.0

I do hope that they have some provisions for internal routing of mechanical groupsets. IIRC the T1500 only supported internal routing with electronic groupsets.

[kbike]

I figured it was only wireless when I checked out what they built for customers and advertising. I couldn't find a fb post with the soar and internal. Just on their website. So just assumed it was spec'd only to have internal routing for brakes.

[patliean1]

The geometry of the Streamline and Soar models in their 2019 catalog seem to match up with the T1500 and SLC 2.0

I do hope that they have some provisions for internal routing of mechanical groupsets. IIRC the T1500 only supported internal routing with electronic groupsets.

T1500 owner here.

I've spoken to several mechanics who have successfully ran fully routed mechanical groupsets for the T1500. The only reason I didn't do this personally was both for serviceability...and because I am absolutely sick of running fully routed mechanical groupsets this year LoL.

EDIT: I ran the hydraulic lines internally, but kept the shift cables outer. I really do wish more brands offered provisions for both options like Winspace. You can run both cables internally but it's tight. And honestly it's no more or less difficult to route internally than on a Velobuild, Dengfu, or Yoeleo.

[StiffWeenies]

T1500 owner here.

I've spoken to several mechanics who have successfully ran fully routed mechanical groupsets for the T1500. The only reason I didn't do this personally was both for serviceability...and because I am absolutely sick of running fully routed mechanical groupsets this year LoL.

EDIT: I ran the hydraulic lines internally, but kept the shift cables outer. I really do wish more brands offered provisions for both options like Winspace. You can run both cables internally but it's tight. And honestly it's no more or less difficult to route internally than on a Velobuild, Dengfu, or Yoeleo.

Any chance you could link me to their builds? I trawled through social media and couldn't find a single instance of an internally routed mechanical T1500.

I'm unsure if it's truly compatible because in this video, the owner said that although the cables housing fit inside, they also became kinked in the process.

[StiffWeenies]

Okay, so some interesting new discoveries:

There's this fully integrated SLC 2.0 using the Winspace Zero cockpit and this other example, both with the external brake holes still in place. I'm unsure if a hole had to be punched in the fork steerer or if the stock fork comes with provisions for external and internal routing to begin with.

Looking back at that fully integrated Adris Soar, the cockpit looked more like the Speeder SC-RH02 than the Winspace Zero. Where it gets interesting is that there may be more players in the Speeder/Winspace/Gotobike circle than I originally thought. The SC-RH02 cockpit looks the same as the Adapt AHD-01 and Edge Design HB-20 while the SC-R49D frame looks the same as the Adapt FM49-DB and Edge Design Aeolus.

Adapt also has frames that I couldn't find anywhere else like the AT-B01. They seem like a legit OEM supplier too as the Olympia Leader seems to be a rebrand of the FM08-DB frame.

And since Adapt states that the AHD-01 accepts fully integrated mechanical groupsets, the Speeder SC-R49D & SC-RH02 combo should be compatible too. All we need now is for Speeder to update the SC-R48D to work with that cockpit and we should be good.

[patliean1]

Any movement on these frames? And do they actually direct/business to consumer?

[planet_sammy]

In case anyone is still doubting this: the full bike picture on Speeder's website is actually a Winspace branded frame. They (badly) erased the downtube logo in Photoshop, but you can still see the side of the headtube logo:

I've just watched the video from "China Cycling" on YouTube, where the production of the frames is presented...does he then walk through the "Speedercycling" production hall or does Winspace also have a production facility in Xiamen?

[Irideslowly]

I would love to buy one.

[planet_sammy]

Any movement on these frames? And do they actually direct/business to consumer?

I contact Speeder yesterday and get an answer from "Justin" today...price for the SC-R48D is US$675, Shipping cost (germany) US$160 (tax free). He told me that full internal routing with the SC-R48D is not possible 

Here is a new model, i found today on their website:
https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R52D-_p412.html

[Irideslowly]

No internally routing is great.

[StiffWeenies]

I contact Speeder yesterday and get an answer from "Justin" today...price for the SC-R48D is US$675, Shipping cost (germany) US$160 (tax free). He told me that full internal routing with the SC-R48D is not possible 

Here is a new model, i found today on their website:
https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R52D-_p412.html

The Adris Performance seems to be the SC-R52D

There's also the Adris Vitesse which looks a lot like the Orca Aero and hopefully will be offered by Speeder too

[RDY]

The Adris Performance seems to be the SC-R52D

There's also the Adris Vitesse which looks a lot like the Orca Aero and hopefully will be offered by Speeder too

Just a render, but the Vitesse looks sweet.  Speeder don't seem to like doing more than 28mm clearance though 

[planet_sammy]

Just a render, but the Vitesse looks sweet.  Speeder don't seem to like doing more than 28mm clearance though 

SP-Cycle is quite active in the "Cyclocross" sub-forum, which is offered and discussed directly in the forum.

If I look at their carbon road bike framesets, there are actually all models with 700x32C, has anyone already had experience with one of these models, such as this SP-053D?

https://www.sp-cycle.com/spcycle-2022-new-t1000-carbon-road-bike-disc-frame-all-internal-cable-700c-racing-bicycle-carbon-frameset-p4139463.html

[patliean1]

I am intrigued by Speeder's new SC-R49D aero frame. The design looks similar to a Winspace T1500 but with more reach. I'm always on the quest for more reach and shorter stack.

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R49D-_p399.html

Size 500 (M): Reach 397 Stack 544
Size 540 (L):  Reach 407 Stack 564

Winspace T1500
Size L:           Reach 393 Stack 547
VeloBuild 168
Size 56 (L):    Reach 398 Stack 556
Dengfu R12
Size 54:         Reach 393 Stack 546

[martocom]

The SC-R52D is very tempting as an Allrounder for me.