Author Topic: Velobuild VB-R-218  (Read 804209 times)

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #345 on: November 11, 2022, 09:32:42 AM »
what type of hose are we talking?

Jagwire ZSK600 Foam for Inner Tubes/Tubes, Unisex, Adult, Black

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C32KBG9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AMY4I718ZUBOU&psc=1

Don't ask why they named it above  (Unisex, Adult...).....  ;D  ..but is it for brake/shifter hoses


madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #346 on: November 11, 2022, 09:43:45 AM »
I think most bikes either use a foam or some type of retainer guide for the hose in the frame.

On my wife's Canyon Aeroroad, they have the hoses running through the downtube & are zip tied & I don't know if they have foam cover as above
Some people have reported rattling in the Canyon frame, but those might be older models

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #347 on: November 11, 2022, 10:13:41 AM »
Heres the routing kit I ordered for $16
Looks like an exact clone of the ParkTool one which is way overpriced at $67

BESNIN Internal Cable Routing kit Bicycle Internal Cable Routing Tool Cycling Bike Internal Cable Routing Tool for Bicycle Frame Put Out Inner Wire
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B5WVXRWL?psc=1&smid=AZHOINDEUNJQ8&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp

This one has good reviews & is on sale & I will need it at some point when I work on the Canyon or my Madone

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #348 on: November 12, 2022, 09:26:58 AM »
Reply from Chris @Velobuild with a pix of the cable routing

It's for the disc version, though my frame is a rim brake. Still good to see how the cables are routed

coffeebreak

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #349 on: November 12, 2022, 09:50:38 AM »
In above diagram the cable for front derailleur is routed above the BB or below the BB? Or it doesn't matter

s3si1u

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #350 on: November 12, 2022, 01:35:46 PM »
In above diagram the cable for front derailleur is routed above the BB or below the BB? Or it doesn't matter

In the photo it's routed under the BB. If the 218 is anything like the 177, then the cable surely has to go under the BB. There's not really enough space to go over, the bend would probably be too tight anyway

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #351 on: November 13, 2022, 12:37:24 AM »
Chris just confirmed that the pix is for the 099, but the routing is identical for the 218 disc

For the rim version the fd and rd cables will go thru bottom tube and the rear rim brake cable will go through top tube

Sebastian

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #352 on: November 13, 2022, 01:43:59 AM »
The 218 is massive at the bottom bracket. Plenty of space there. I found it easier to route the cables above the crank spindle. You could route it below. But it’s tighter there. And particularly with the front rd I’d be worried that the cable moves and rubs at the crank spindle.

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #353 on: November 13, 2022, 01:49:05 AM »
The 218 is massive at the bottom bracket. Plenty of space there. I found it easier to route the cables above the crank spindle. You could route it below. But it’s tighter there. And particularly with the front rd I’d be worried that the cable moves and rubs at the crank spindle.

Did you have to do any filing inside the BB, where they added a bolt that’s sticking up a bit

Sebastian

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #354 on: November 13, 2022, 03:38:08 AM »
Did you have to do any filing inside the BB, where they added a bolt that’s sticking up a bit

No. My Campagnolo crank has a 25mm spindle which just about does not rub. Shimano 24mm and SRAM GXP with 24mm will be fine as well. But SRAM Dub might rub and BB30 definitely will, I guess.

Piros

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #355 on: November 13, 2022, 04:26:32 AM »
Hello everyone. I would also like to buy a frame with rim brakes.
 I saw that on the geometry table from velobuild and aliexpress the size S is from velob. a A=53cm and ali CF=50cm.
 I think the velobuild table is wrong, am I right? I like it when the seat post sticks out a lot.
 I'm 173cm, should size S fit?

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #356 on: November 13, 2022, 11:19:25 AM »
Hello everyone. I would also like to buy a frame with rim brakes.
 I saw that on the geometry table from velobuild and aliexpress the size S is from velob. a A=53cm and ali CF=50cm.
 I think the velobuild table is wrong, am I right? I like it when the seat post sticks out a lot.
 I'm 173cm, should size S fit?

173cm = 5' 6"
I am 5' 10" & ride a size 56cm Trek & Chris recommended a  XL 218 frame for me.

Take this comparison I did for my own bike & then add/remove sizes with your own existing bike & get an idea of the the geometry

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/trek-madone-2021-56-cm,velobuild-vb-r-218-2022-525-xl,velobuild-vb-r-218-2022-520-l/

After that email Chris @velo & tell him your height & send a pix of your comparison to him & he will be able to guide you on frame size & handlebars
They are responsive & very nice to work with


hurburt

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #357 on: November 15, 2022, 03:48:48 AM »
173cm = 5' 6"
I am 5' 10" & ride a size 56cm Trek & Chris recommended a  XL 218 frame for me.


I have a size m and am bang on 6'. Handlebar stem is 400x110. My ride before was a canyon aroad 2019 in size m.

And i find the frame big enough. So I wouldnt go for xl.

madmax

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #358 on: November 15, 2022, 10:16:58 AM »
I have a size m and am bang on 6'. Handlebar stem is 400x110. My ride before was a canyon aroad 2019 in size m.

And i find the frame big enough. So I wouldnt go for xl.

Little late in the day, as I already paid for the frame & it will be shipped or has shipped (I have no idea)
I also had multiple email exchanges with Chris & sent him the same link below before placing the order

I checked the geometry for the L & XL against my existing Trek Madone SL7 & the XL is  +0.6/-0.6 mm difference   (See below)

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/trek-madone-2021-56-cm,velobuild-vb-r-218-2022-525-xl,velobuild-vb-r-218-2022-520-l/

kongo

Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« Reply #359 on: November 15, 2022, 07:35:17 PM »
just checking what's everyone all up wt.? Im at 22lbs with 55mm depth X 28mm wide wheels.
correction 19lbs or 9kg with pedals bottle cages, and garmin mount
« Last Edit: December 12, 2022, 07:48:35 PM by kongo »