Velobuild VB-R-218

Started by braincore, April 17, 2022, 01:15:42 AM

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Sebastian

Quote from: madmax on March 17, 2023, 09:28:12 AM
@Sebastian

What skewers are those in the last pix ?

Those are screw axles from German bike retailer Rose: https://www.rosebikes.de/rose-lite-axle-spannachsen-50001

I bought them mainly for the looks. I don't like how QR skewers look on this bike. Particularly on the fork. Also, I got a multi tool with me anyway when I'm out for a ride. So taking a wheel out isn't a problem.

mattgolt

Finished my build and just went for a short ride to check on everything. Rides very nicely, very stiff (I might change the rear tire from 25mm to 28mm to increase comfort). Overall I'm very happy with it and for the cost I cannot complain (warning: new toy syndrome). The fit is also nice, as I was afraid the frame could be too small. But the aero spacers and saddle setback make up for it.  I'm 188cm tall with a 92cm inseam and long arms, got the XL Frame. I haven't decided on the final bike fit, so I still have 15mm 3d printed spacers on top - thanks to the stranger who designed these and put them on thingiverse! I'll also put some TPU on my 3d printer this weekend and see if I can draw up some grommets for the frame openings that I don't need due to the electronic shifting and a seat post gasket.

The only issue I have not solved yet is some disc brake rubbing on the rear brake that I cannot get rid of at the moment. Possibly due to misaligned (unfaced) brake mounting points. I went with post mount brakes as I got the Sram Red groupset for 600€ cheaper than flat mount, so I had to use adapters that increase the distance between the calliper and the frame. Not sure if that worsens the issue. I might want to exchange the callipers to flat mount. Does anyone know if changing to flat mount callipers helps with the disc brake rubbing? Or does anyone have experience with DIY facing the brake mounts?


Find my 3d printable files on thingiverse:
VB TT 023 (Frame L) toolbox: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7073969
VB TT 023 Rear bottle holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7128222
VB R 218 Frame hole grommets: https://www.thingiverse.com/mattgolt/collections/43437857/things

Yunglord

Quote from: mattgolt on March 18, 2023, 08:22:50 AM
Finished my build and just went for a short ride to check on everything. Rides very nicely, very stiff (I might change the rear tire from 25mm to 28mm to increase comfort). Overall I'm very happy with it and for the cost I cannot complain (warning: new toy syndrome). The fit is also nice, as I was afraid the frame could be too small. But the aero spacers and saddle setback make up for it.  I'm 188cm tall with a 92cm inseam and long arms, got the XL Frame. I haven't decided on the final bike fit, so I still have 15mm 3d printed spacers on top - thanks to the stranger who designed these and put them on thingiverse! I'll also put some TPU on my 3d printer this weekend and see if I can draw up some grommets for the frame openings that I don't need due to the electronic shifting and a seat post gasket.

The only issue I have not solved yet is some disc brake rubbing on the rear brake that I cannot get rid of at the moment. Possibly due to misaligned (unfaced) brake mounting points. I went with post mount brakes as I got the Sram Red groupset for 600€ cheaper than flat mount, so I had to use adapters that increase the distance between the calliper and the frame. Not sure if that worsens the issue. I might want to exchange the callipers to flat mount. Does anyone know if changing to flat mount callipers helps with the disc brake rubbing? Or does anyone have experience with DIY facing the brake mounts?

Nice build Matt what wheels are those I dig the finish and that paint is sparkly!!! Definitely go to a shop and get the brake mounts faced to help with the rubbing!

Sebastian

Quote from: Yunglord on March 18, 2023, 10:49:32 PM
Nice build Matt what wheels are those I dig the finish and that paint is sparkly!!! Definitely go to a shop and get the brake mounts faced to help with the rubbing!

That's what I was gonna suggest. Your postmount calipers should be fine. The misalignment is most likely due to uneven brake mounts.

Nice bike! I dig the paintjob.

mattgolt

#619
Thanks both. I'm also positively surprised by the paint. Its quite hard to capture on camera, but the chameleon effect from green to purple as the light changes is cool. (I would laught at someone who has this on his car, but I'm a bike person after all).

I'll see if I can find someone with that hillariously expensive facing tool next week. But since it is Sunday and nothing is open, I fired up the 3d printed and made a nice gasket for the seatpost cover. Also a front derallieur gasket and rear derallieur gasket since I'm using wireless shifting. If anyone wants the files:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5917550
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5917583
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5917830

Quote from: Yunglord on March 18, 2023, 10:49:32 PM
Nice build Matt what wheels are those
I purchased them from velobuild too. VB-RC-50-23/25mm 142x12 Carbon road Wheelset disc 25mm Width
Find my 3d printable files on thingiverse:
VB TT 023 (Frame L) toolbox: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7073969
VB TT 023 Rear bottle holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7128222
VB R 218 Frame hole grommets: https://www.thingiverse.com/mattgolt/collections/43437857/things

coffeebreak

#620
Quote from: mattgolt on March 19, 2023, 03:14:29 AM
I purchased them from velobuild too. VB-RC-50-23/25mm 142x12 Carbon road Wheelset disc 25mm Width
Nice color choice. Looks fantastic! Will be interested in knowing how those wheels perform - so many VB frames here but not a single review of VB wheels. It makes perfect sense to order wheels too, in the same order as frameset.

joegal

#621
Quote from: coffeebreak on March 22, 2023, 12:42:43 PM
so many VB frames here but not a single review of VB wheels.

in fact, Patrick Lino had these wheels (the 38mm version) on his Velobuild 177, but he wasn't overly impressed by their ride feel and the heavy weight.

Check it out here:
and here:

Cnasta

Quote from: mattgolt on March 18, 2023, 08:22:50 AM
Finished my build and just went for a short ride to check on everything. Rides very nicely, very stiff (I might change the rear tire from 25mm to 28mm to increase comfort). Overall I'm very happy with it and for the cost I cannot complain (warning: new toy syndrome). The fit is also nice, as I was afraid the frame could be too small. But the aero spacers and saddle setback make up for it.  I'm 188cm tall with a 92cm inseam and long arms, got the XL Frame. I haven't decided on the final bike fit, so I still have 15mm 3d printed spacers on top - thanks to the stranger who designed these and put them on thingiverse! I'll also put some TPU on my 3d printer this weekend and see if I can draw up some grommets for the frame openings that I don't need due to the electronic shifting and a seat post gasket.

The only issue I have not solved yet is some disc brake rubbing on the rear brake that I cannot get rid of at the moment. Possibly due to misaligned (unfaced) brake mounting points. I went with post mount brakes as I got the Sram Red groupset for 600€ cheaper than flat mount, so I had to use adapters that increase the distance between the calliper and the frame. Not sure if that worsens the issue. I might want to exchange the callipers to flat mount. Does anyone know if changing to flat mount callipers helps with the disc brake rubbing? Or does anyone have experience with DIY facing the brake mounts?

Great looking bike. Look like a good paintjob as wel.

For rubbing I think trying without adapters is worth a try. Look better as well.

Small detail: your front tire is on backwards/the wrong way around :)

ENEP

I added the geo for all sizes to BikeInsight so you can compare geo with other bikes and get a graphic view of the differences.

https://bikeinsights.com/bikes/641dae592688e1001b2bf5fa-velobuild-218?version=2022&build=base

Example comparing 218 to 177
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=641dae5a2688e1001b2bf610,604f80118f67120017f7cdfa,


pierluigi

Hi All,
Is the handlebar ready for Di2 installation? Is the small hole present in the bottom right part of the handlebar?

Thnaks a lot.


mattgolt

Quote from: pierluigi on April 04, 2023, 01:57:23 AM
Hi All,
Is the handlebar ready for Di2 installation? Is the small hole present in the bottom right part of the handlebar?

Thnaks a lot.

Hello sir,

Your comment just made me research how to install Di2 and I realized what a pain it ist, lol. Glad I went with sram etap.

In other words: no, the handlebars do not have the extra hole for Di2. Also the frame does not have the hole in the downtube like the dogma F has. There is a Di2 battery holder in the bottom bracket, though.
Find my 3d printable files on thingiverse:
VB TT 023 (Frame L) toolbox: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7073969
VB TT 023 Rear bottle holder: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7128222
VB R 218 Frame hole grommets: https://www.thingiverse.com/mattgolt/collections/43437857/things

pierluigi

Thanks for your comment:
someone has other suggestions?
@Sebastian ?
@kongo ?


madmax

Quote from: pierluigi on April 05, 2023, 02:41:37 AM
Thanks for your comment:
someone has other suggestions?
@Sebastian ?
@kongo ?


Did you already buy the Di2 groupset or had one lying around ?

If no, then the sram eTap is the easiest way to get a groupset on that frame & handlebar




pierluigi

Thanks,

but I have already this group.

Whatsperkilo?

Quote from: pierluigi on April 05, 2023, 02:41:37 AM
Thanks for your comment:
someone has other suggestions?
@Sebastian ?
@kongo ?

There's no holes in the bar but if you have a bar end junction you'll be able to daisy chain the Di2 wires to the levers utilising the multiple di2 ports on them. And then route through the brake hose holes and from there to the frame and down to the battery and derailleurs - DI2 will basically shift correctly as long as all the components are connected in some way. Bettershifting.com is a great resource for this.
If you're handy with a solder iron you can also save a few pennies by making your own wiring loom and avoid the need for multiple junction boxes.

I put the new 12 speed on mine so no need for wires in the handlebars but I may well install some at a later date to increase the system battery life (lasts longer when wired)

I'm still waiting for Chris to ship me a replacement frame after I had the cracked seattube issue Sebastian also had.