Author Topic: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame  (Read 87498 times)

Ludo

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #270 on: May 08, 2025, 05:44:18 AM »
chainstay passage is pretty narrow, it took me a few attempts feeding from the back IIRC to get it through

peterpanpeter

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #271 on: May 08, 2025, 05:47:11 AM »
chainstay passage is pretty narrow, it took me a few attempts feeding from the back IIRC to get it through

At first I also tried from the back following the plastic liner but there was a hard stop. So I thought there might be a bend so I tried the other way, from the BB and that's when it got stuck.

Jouke

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #272 on: May 08, 2025, 11:07:42 AM »
At first I also tried from the back following the plastic liner but there was a hard stop. So I thought there might be a bend so I tried the other way, from the BB and that's when it got stuck.
stuck? As in you cant get the cable out of there any more?

The passage is very narrow and a real pain in butt but I managed to do it also. Stay patient,. change angles and 'push and pull' at the same time. I wouldnt worry about damaging it too much. Stay patient

peterpanpeter

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #273 on: May 08, 2025, 11:47:33 AM »
stuck? As in you cant get the cable out of there any more?

The passage is very narrow and a real pain in butt but I managed to do it also. Stay patient,. change angles and 'push and pull' at the same time. I wouldnt worry about damaging it too much. Stay patient

Yes, the routing kit cable (with the magnet on it) is stuck inside the chain-stay. I've tried every direction with the magnet and it won't move. I have tried pulling on it pretty hard but not full force because I don't wanna accidentally burrow the cable deeper if it's caught on something. Unsure how it could get that stuck, I was guiding it using the magnet and then suddenly, boom, stuck and I couldn't back out.

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #274 on: May 08, 2025, 12:48:09 PM »
Yes, the routing kit cable (with the magnet on it) is stuck inside the chain-stay. I've tried every direction with the magnet and it won't move. I have tried pulling on it pretty hard but not full force because I don't wanna accidentally burrow the cable deeper if it's caught on something. Unsure how it could get that stuck, I was guiding it using the magnet and then suddenly, boom, stuck and I couldn't back out.

Just to clarify, the routing tool + the rear derailleur cable housing is stuck inside the drive side chainstay? Is your bottom bracket installed? If it is, take it off and see if you can wiggle the cable out of the chain stay from the BB opening. As a last resort, you can use a metal clothes hanger to see if you can fish it out. Just be careful though, you don't want the clothes hanger stuck in there as well! In fact I keep a clothes hanger wire and a paper clip as one of my frame building tools for situations like this!   ;)

Saying that, the G056/RF25 was actually my easiest bike build, I had very little issues building this frame out.  :)

jeffrey

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #275 on: May 08, 2025, 01:15:50 PM »
In my case the outer casing was a bit tricky to get through the exit hole at the end of the chainstay, as I routed from the headset using the thin guides they include in the frames.
I solved this by running the inner cable in the casing (while it was in the frame) and making it exit first, so I could use it to guide the casing end through the exit hole


jeffrey

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #276 on: May 08, 2025, 04:21:59 PM »
BUT
I cut the steerer tube a couple mm too long and I have headset play  :-\
What would be the easiest way to fix it, hopefully without removing all the internally routed cables? Filing it down or trying to attach the cutting guide where the stem sits and cutting the extra without taking the fork down?

Ultramic

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #277 on: May 08, 2025, 07:24:43 PM »
BUT
I cut the steerer tube a couple mm too long and I have headset play  :-\
What would be the easiest way to fix it, hopefully without removing all the internally routed cables? Filing it down or trying to attach the cutting guide where the stem sits and cutting the extra without taking the fork down?

I would recommend the latter. Having another person there to hold the handlebar and keep the cables out of the way would be beneficial. Also lie the bike down sideways (on the grass or a towel) and cut vertically. Do not try to cut horizontally with the bike standing because even with the guide, the saw will drift within the guide and it will be come difficult to cut and you will end up with a crooked cut.

hsaus

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #278 on: May 08, 2025, 07:25:36 PM »
BUT
I cut the steerer tube a couple mm too long and I have headset play  :-\
What would be the easiest way to fix it, hopefully without removing all the internally routed cables? Filing it down or trying to attach the cutting guide where the stem sits and cutting the extra without taking the fork down?

Rides of Japan's solution: https://youtu.be/watch?v=dtsiypoaWhI

Ultramic

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #279 on: May 08, 2025, 07:30:29 PM »
At first I also tried from the back following the plastic liner but there was a hard stop. So I thought there might be a bend so I tried the other way, from the BB and that's when it got stuck.

I believe there is a carbon join on the drive side seat stay which is where the outer can get snagged. I always feed in from the derailleur end and invariably will hit a block but after a few tries it gets through with no issues.

In your case, I would try feeding a cable outer from the derailleur end and see if you can work it through (try positioning the frame at different angles and even upside down) and see if you can dislodge the magnet that way. Perhaps even have another person gently pulling at the magnet while you push with the outer.

jeffrey

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #280 on: May 09, 2025, 01:22:45 PM »
I would recommend the latter. Having another person there to hold the handlebar and keep the cables out of the way would be beneficial. Also lie the bike down sideways (on the grass or a towel) and cut vertically. Do not try to cut horizontally with the bike standing because even with the guide, the saw will drift within the guide and it will be come difficult to cut and you will end up with a crooked cut.

Rides of Japan's solution: https://youtu.be/watch?v=dtsiypoaWhI

Thank you both, I will definitely try this way
Of course to make it harder, I have separate stem+bar but the cables are running through the spacers  ;D

jeffrey

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #281 on: May 10, 2025, 01:42:02 PM »
Here it is! My first bike build ever

Ceccotti RF 25 in size L, chameleon glossy paint, 7.85 kg (without pedals) x 1380 €

I've been sourcing parts from months, waiting for offers and price drops, as well as doing a lot of reading and studying, and I'm now really satisfied with how it turned out, and how much I learnt in the process.
I wasn't fast as I never did anything similar, but I had no major problems, just a few things that demanded their fair amount of time: above all sanding down the compression ring (it left a thick gap above the frame) and cleaning the bottom bracket threads from paint overspray.


Parts breakdown:

Frame + fork + bottom bracket   Ceccotti RF25 size L                    396,48 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005008208274231.html
Seatpost                                    Toseek                                        15,19 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005286211545.html
Saddle                                       Ryet Aircode                                42,58 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005209973776.html
Stem                                         Kocevlo 80 mm                            17,41 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005007557399904.html
Handlebar                                  Og-Evkin HB-010 400 mm            26,09 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005944474195.html
Bartape                                     Og-Evkin BT-001-BLACK                 4,81 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005644811837.html
Shifters + derailleurs                  Shimano 105 R7000 11              114,90 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005007002474089.html
Crankset + chainrings                 Riro XX11 RD 50-34                   113,66 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006481196419.html
Pedals (planned)                        Zeray ZP-108S                             21,45 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006295887679.html
Cassette                                    Goldix SL CNC 11-32                    63,70 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006472254930.html
Chain                                        Decathlon (KMC) X11                    19,99 €    https://www.decathlon.it/p/catena-bici-11-velocita/_/R-p-300692
Brakes                                      Onirii BR-05                                 41,31 €    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006979553014.html
Brake pads                                Kingstop                                        4,89 €     https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1963687894.html
Rotors                                       SRAM (maybe) bronze 160 mm     16,00 €     https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005051281201.html
Shift cables (inner+outer)           Jagwire PCK500                           25,04 €     https://www.amazon.it/dp/B077F9ZMKF
Brake cables (inner+outer)         Jagwire PCK200                           22,99 €     https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B01MZ5WP6E/
Antirattle foam                          generic                                          3,48 €     https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005007235167191.html
Bottle cages                              Riderace                                        2,29 €     https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005004883648081.html
Wheels                                     Elitewheels ENT 38 mm               366,87 €      https://elitewheels.aliexpress.com/store/1859081
Tubes                                       Thinkrider TPU                              10,59 €     https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005005361851622.html
Tires                                        Continental Ultrasport III 28 mm    50,56 €     https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B0BBZ93F8V/

« Last Edit: May 10, 2025, 01:44:13 PM by jeffrey »

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #282 on: May 13, 2025, 07:42:45 PM »
I ended up putting some 30c road slicks on my G056/RF25 frameset to give it a more road-like feel. I'm thinking of just keeping this bike more as a casual climb ready 1x road bike.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2025, 11:19:29 AM by jonathanf2 »

peterpanpeter

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #283 on: May 15, 2025, 05:26:57 AM »
As expected, the seller have not helped at all. A week of telling them the same thing over and over and we're still on square 1.

Any advice? I guess I could shove a coat hanger in there but unsure what to do next. I'm so confused to what the cable could have gotten stuck on.

Here's a video: https://imgur.com/a/h7tXFUh

jonathanf2

Re: Spcycle New Mold G056 Carbon Gravel Frame
« Reply #284 on: May 15, 2025, 11:36:27 AM »
As expected, the seller have not helped at all. A week of telling them the same thing over and over and we're still on square 1.

Any advice? I guess I could shove a coat hanger in there but unsure what to do next. I'm so confused to what the cable could have gotten stuck on.

Here's a video: https://imgur.com/a/h7tXFUh

Just get the coat hanger and fish that cable out. That's my last resort tool for issues like this.

For future reference, if a chain stay and BB area has ample room, I would just use the plastic cable sleeve to guide the RD cable through. For the RF25/G056 frame, I don't even think I bothered with the magnetic cable tool.